" - Known operating systems: GNU/Linux (Windows is just a gaming platform);"
Ahaha! I don't know, I see something like that on a CV, I can't take the guy seriously. Douchebag.
guest
· 1 year ago
"Try going to this page with IE for some true awesomeness."
That's great. After all, FOSS is all about the freedom to use what you want.
...so long as they approve of it.
Kharkhalash
· 1 year ago
It's funny, he goes on an anti-ms anti-ie anti-proprietary rant about how you should only access his page using free software, blah blah blah. But apparently, it's fine for me to access it with Opera, go figure.
Freeman
· 1 year ago
You can't really ask these guys to make sense.
Stilgar
· 1 year ago
I have a collection of sites like this. Strange thing is most of them won't allow any other browser other than the browser tha fascists use - Firefox. They don't allow Opera they don't even allow Konqueror.
BTW what's on this site anyway (Yes, I only have IE on my laptop).
Darien
· 1 year ago
You are not missing anything. Only a static page ranting about his accomplishments as a developer using free software.
Nothing to see here, move along. (really)
Chlorus
· 1 year ago
Hehe, a distro I used to use pulled that shit too. The funny part is the page didn't render correctly even in Firefox. http://sabayonlinux.org - that's the distro, not sure if they still do the asstarded IE blocking.
whitetigersx
· 1 year ago
And of course there's the fact that it's not the browser it's the web page usually.
Gives a good example of why standards can be a tough thing to get perfect. I've actually had more web pages break in firefox than in IE(any version). While I like firefox and many of the add-ons that it has it's definitely no worse than firefox.
Diego
· 1 year ago
Thank you for that enlightening link about the battle with web standards.
It was truly insightful, evenhanded and a pleasure to read. Thank you.
svandoren
· 1 year ago
IE7 and FF both render the page precisely the same. What am I missing?
.net jerkface
· 1 year ago
He talking about IE6 but didn't mention that, which is common with ie vs firefox comparisons.
Ugh, I wish I didn't visit his site, he is just another gpl douche: none of my computer science work could exist without free software
Open-source software was built with proprietary software. What exactly was gcc compiled with? The will of the people?
Good to see he is working on a gpl'd chess engine, that is what the open source world really needs at this point. Microsoft your days are numbered.
Darien
· 1 year ago
Oh, I see. “I have profited a lot from free software and I tried to give something back.” So in other words, he wants to maximize his profits by not purchasing proprietary software.
Pay $1500.00 for IDE software and make $2000.00 from my resultant development yielding a profit of $500.00. Or, pay $0.00 for IDE software (lacking a lot of the time savings and usability enhancements) and make $1500.00 from my resultant development yielding a profit of $1500.00.
Of course, free software must be better.
Phillip
· 1 year ago
Pay $1500.00 for IDE software and make $2000.00 from my resultant development yielding a profit of $500.00. Or, pay $0.00 for IDE software (lacking a lot of the time savings and usability enhancements) and make $1500.00 from my resultant development yielding a profit of $1500.00.
Except your profit won't be $1500 with free software. After you factor in the lost time due to dicking around with the IDE, figuring out all kinds of arcane problems, you blew your load. There's a reason why professional devs primarily use commercial tools to do their work. It saves time, the support is better, and you can focus on getting your work done, rather than pretending that you're making a profit. Unless, of course, your time is worth zero. Mine isn't.
thecodewitch
· 1 year ago
There's a reason why professional devs primarily use commercial tools to do their work. It saves time, the support is better, and you can focus on getting your work done, rather than pretending that you're making a profit. Unless, of course, your time is worth zero. Mine isn't.
The time honoured and trusty "I need to get shit done" argument. Linux zealots have been running away screaming from this argument since the first time it was uttered. Always good seeing it again, always good to see it expressed so succinctly.
*clears throat*
This comment is made of WIN, and a quantity of internets has been deposited into your account. Congratulations.
What a fucking douche. Upon reading this, I really should just ignore it and move on, but something....compels me..... to come up with some interpretation of what the fuck this guy was doing that makes some sense.
The only conclusion I can reach is this - he must be incredibly lonely. He is so starved of even the most basic human contact, that he decides to reply to a software pirates scam email, asking for a copy of ubuntu. I speculate that his mindfuck obsession with linux has something to do with the reason for his isolation.
Discuss.
Gary Niger
· 1 year ago
That dude is a pretty famous blogger in the Linux world. We tried to recruit him to be our "Windows Vista PR Manager" but he told us to and I quote: "suck a donkey cock". Very rude gentlemen, I must say.
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
A "pretty famous blogger in the Linux world" is akin to being the greatest hockey player in Ecuador. Nobody gives a rats ass.
"If there’s a glib, nutshell synopsis for why Linux desktop software tends to suck, it’s this: Raymond and his ilk have no respect for anyone but themselves."
...
"Great software developers don’t design for morons. They design for smart, perceptive people — people just like themselves. They have profound respect for their users."
There are many more good ones - Also, I haven't finished reading it yet.
So far, to me, this article speaks of the humility that is missing entirely from open source developers, the lack of which prevents them from listening to other people and learning from them, and which prevents them from seeing that the rest of the world left them behind a long time ago.
trooper9
· 1 year ago
That's an incredibly insightful article. Pretty much cuts to the bone.
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
The link to the douche that "asked a software pirate for free software" ... what a shining example of what complete assholes many Linux users are.
LIZ
· 1 year ago
Stop calling it "Linux", the new word is "Linsux".
LINSUX.
tom
· 1 year ago
Your word "Linsux" can suck my Linuts....
Anonymous
· 1 year ago
Yeah as good as WindbLows, or Microshaft. Put a lot of thought into that did you?
Mayor McCheese
· 1 year ago
That IE one was especially hilarious. I've actually become rather fond of IE7 in Vista (especially since the shit factory that is FF3), which is completely secure thanks to UAC (it runs at a lower privilege level than the user) and actually is much closer to being standards compliant than IE6. Moreover, IE8's gunning for total CSS2.1 compatibility by default. These lusers are just whiners.
John
· 1 year ago
Windows free family? That's child abuse, I know Portal and Bioshock won't run on Linux still in 3008.
me
· 1 year ago
The whole comment part of this blog is pretty useless, don't you think?
lon nol
· 1 year ago
Actually, I'd say it's the BLOG part that's useless.
Timbo
· 1 year ago
The whole comment part of this blog is pretty useless, don't you think?
Rrrrrright, so "useless" that you couldn't resist posting, huh dipshit?
Crunchinator
· 1 year ago
In the five things you can't teach Ubuntu article I love how some idiot attempts to disprove that you cannot copy and paste or drag and drop pictures from Firefox into Impress by listing a five step process involving clicking various buttons. Awesome! Way to prove that guy wrong!
Kharkhalash
· 1 year ago
The funny thing is it's a blatant strawman argument (typical). The postewr never claimed that youy couldn't import graphics from the firefox into Impress, simply that you can't copy/paste or drag/drop from on to the other.
The commenter contests a claim the poster never made. freetards do that, a lot if they can't argue the actual point, they'll either strawman like that, or start taking shots at Microsoft, resort to ad hominem (MS shill!), or just mention some tangent that's completely irrelevent (NASA, Google and supercomputers while the discussion is about the desktop).
NotMoreLinuxZealotry
· 1 year ago
I liked the laughs I got from the webpage that doesn't allow IE. It inspired me to create the following, and I encourage anyone who owns their own company that deals with the REAL business world to detect the operating system and use this on their "Careers" page accordingly:
You may not view this page using Linux as your operating system.
Sorry, but we have deliberately blocked access to anyone attempting to access our careers page using Linux. If you care enough about having a career with us, please access this page from the Windows machine we all know you own.
Here are our reasons, if you care to read them.
1. None of our clients use Linux. The fact that you can install Ubuntu 8.04 and build a kernel is a skill set that nobody cares about.
2. None of our clients care that you use Linux. When you are on the job site and they want you to develop queries for their Sequel server on IIS, they dont want to hear about how great it is that Linux with Apache running MySQL is free. You're being paid to do what they want, not to evangelize on their dime.
3. Our clients use Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, and Microsoft Powerpoint. Not OpenOffice. They don't want you using anything else either, and shouting about being able to read and write MS files until you're blue in the face wont change this.
Segedunum
· 1 year ago
When you are on the job site and they want you to develop queries for their Sequel server on IIS
Anybody calls SQL 'Sequel' and doesn't know what it stands for is a tosser who doesn't know what they're talking about. As sure as eggs is eggs. Constant as the Northern Star.
You're being paid to do what they want, not to evangelize on their dime.
Not paid enough unfortunately, and the drama is just too much for anyone who has a clue to deal with :-). Yep, you're stuck with the............................MCSE. Oh, and as a development company here's a hint - you're there to make money for yourselves to put food on the table, not to make money for Microsoft and fuck about with their software ;-).
NotMoreLinuxZealotry
· 1 year ago
Thanks for missing my point, fossbritfag. My point was you are being paid to use what they have, not evangelize about how great free open source is. Shut up and do your job.
You're there to make money to put food on the table, I agree. And how is that done? By DOING WHAT YOU ARE PAID TO DO. If that means using microsoft products, then thats what you do, not prattle on about how much better things would be if they used open source.
A reference to claiming I have an MCSE is just sheer and utter butthurt on your part, and your claim about my education credentials is almost as funny as the fosstards who claim using desktop linux in a corporate environment is a viable alternative to windows.
Wake up, and join the REAL business world, fucktard.
.troll
· 1 year ago
I get paid for developing FOSS. In the REAL business world. So does LinuxHater.
whitetigersx
· 1 year ago
But are you going around evangelizing about how great that FOSS is, especially in a desktop environment?
layer
· 1 year ago
boy you are dump
Lol Lolovici
· 1 year ago
Ummm, I use linux in a corporate environment, that being at my workplace where I am paiedfor working on linux. And you know what? My colleague sitting next to me gets paid for the same thing. Also there are about 1/3 of the engineers there doing the same thing. The other 2/3 are using windows. There are also so rare macs around.
And you know what else? Nobody gives a shit about what operating system you use because the software products we do don't run on our machines and don't usually run on regular hardware either. Perhaps it is you who should get a clue that large parts of the world of IT doesn't revolve around windows or linux or x86 for that matter.
NotMoreLinuxZealotry
· 1 year ago
What a suprise one of the few exceptions to the rule pops up.
No one gives a shit about operating system you use? LOL.... Tell me what operating system does Microsoft Office, the #1 used software suite in the desktop business world, run on? oH yeah... WINDOWS. Not linux, WINDOWS.
The fact that you mention engineers immediately means you arent the mainstream corporate business user. The mainstream corporate business user is writing his memos in Microsoft word to discuss the email he just received in Outlook regarding his POWERPOINT presentation he gave last week. The mainstream corporate user is NOT someone using an open source email program to discuss why their Matlab code didnt give the results the expected from their FEA algorithm.
The sooner you and the other foss nuthuggers realize this, the sooner we can all move on and accept the REALITY of the business world together.
Game. Set. Match.
/thread
L
· 1 year ago
well the mainstream corporate bussiness computer user such as our secretary does not care about windows/linux/macosX she cares about polishing her nails and appealling to her bosses first and to the IT nerds second. I've fed her various linuxes over time (but not my "linuts"...) but as soon she gets out of order we go back to formatting and windows. she is actually my benchmark for linux being ready for the desktop (when this day comes i might be able to finally sag her!)
lemonhead
· 1 year ago
LOL for fine benchmarks
burrix
· 1 year ago
you should be feeding her with semen instead of feeding her with linux
asshole
Lol Lolovici
· 1 year ago
Yes, I am a software engineer. No, I do not care much about the problems of the mainstream corporate user. Yes, our more businessy and HR people here use windows and office and I (and others) have absolutely no problem with that. And yes I know how a computer works and am not ashamed of that. I see no reason to feel ashamed for what you know rather than for what you don't.
What the hell does office have to do with anything I said? I pointed out that the IT domain is extremely vast in ways you don't seem likely to comprehend properly. Windows, linux, office, intel, amd, nvidia, enter-your-beloved-product-you-use-at-home-or-work-here, ar but a small part of it albeit a noisy in-your-face one.
Think of it like this: we as humans seem very important on our nice planet, yet insects make up 90% of the animal mass on earth and 99.999% of all living things worked more on shaping the planet for millions of years than we did in our existence. Yet we are noisy and do in-your-face-things all around the world.
You sir are a reversed bigot. You feel good being a fanboy for the majority. And you are also a troll so please don't bother continuing this.
NotMoreLinuxZealotry
· 1 year ago
being a software engineer means you arent part of the corporate mainstream I am talking about, and you carefully try to avoid the secretaries, attorneys, management, and others who do use office virtually exclusively.
They make up a majority of the business world, as much as you want to bury your head in the sand or create strawman metaphors to ignore.
And in that realm, linux is a joke.
How can I be a troll on a blog where I agree with the author's opinions in general?
Again you have proved nothing except that once in a while you need to get off of linus's nuts and come join us in the real business world.
I reiterate: /thread.
whitetigersx
· 1 year ago
ummmm, Lol, he does have a point. He is talking about the mainstream, and as soon as you mention "I am a software engineer." you take a side stream.
He's not talking about the IT domain, he's talking about the corporate domain, and right now on the desktop linux barely enters into the equation of the corporate, non-IT, non-developer, computer literate world.
That doesn't mean that the IT world as a whole is that small. And honestly your attitude about the mainstream user is exactly what LH rants about.
"No, I do not care much about the problems of the mainstream corporate user."
That is no different from WorksForMe(tm). The mainstream corporate user is the reason that developers have jobs, so please get over yourself.
Lol Lolovici
· 1 year ago
I don't know if he was talking about the corporate domain. He is only doing that in the last reply. He seems to be changing the focus of what he says depending on the situation, that's why I said he is a troll.
For example he starts with something about how he recommends companies to change their "careers" page to make fun of linux users which of course a good company would never do because they need people with various skillsets on their jobs.
Then he starts saying in the next reply that it doesn't matter what you use as long as you do what you are paid for but somehow using windows is the only thing you can get paid for. I agree with the part abount not mattering what you use and I give him a counter-example (my company is not the only one and it is not small) and he comes back with something weird about the corporate user that uses windows. I am sorry but the corporate user who uses windows is paid for something that has nothing to do with operating system or software in general. He can be paid for marketing ideas, for sales, for business development, whatever. I don't have anything against these things, they are very useful but have nothing to do with the topic or the replies.
When I said I do not care much about the problems of the corporate user I didn't mean it in the way you interpreted (worksforme). I meant that it is not the point of what I said before and this guy was trying to shift the focus so he can keep things in his alley.
I was also ticked by the way he insults people and talks like he knows everything.
NotMoreLinuxZealotry
· 1 year ago
I dont know everything, just a hell of a lot more than you, as evidence by someone else seeing about blatantly I owned the shit out of you.
Now run along and get busy! its not long before Ubuntu's next release and the local market is running a sale on kleenex and vaseline.
Lol Lolovici
· 1 year ago
You sure know a hell lot more than me about vaseline purchasing from your local market. I can only wonder what you use it for.
Someone
· 1 year ago
Did you forget about User Agent switching?
Dumbass...
If your site had any relevance to Linux users then it would just cause a massive surge of Linux users masqueraded as Windows running IE flooding your email servers will hate mail and spreading rumors on the web. Although comical, it wont help corporate public relations one bit.
BTW, nobody should care what Office Suit they're using. OxygenOffice and Go-OO bring OOo in much closer proximity to Microsoft Office.
NotMoreLinuxZealotry
· 1 year ago
OxygenOffice and Go-OO bringing OOo in much closer proximity to Microsoft Office is tantamount to saying a turbo kit on a 95 civic DX brings it in much closer proximity to a top fuel dragster.
you fail.
Someone
· 1 year ago
Right... as if you know anything about these vastly improved OOo derivatives and the features they provide. These are real alternatives to Office and are superior to stock OOo. Just because it doesn't have the ribbon interface doesn't mean jack shit--I don't even like the ribbon interface in Office 2007.
But shit son... I could easily install Office 2003 and 2007 with Wine, Crossover, and Bordeaux too. Fact is my choice is exactly the same as you dipshit.
Its no wonder you have no credibility.
h1d
· 1 year ago
"I never trusted companies"
We know that young ones are influential and never really see the truth but are just hooraying with their close buds for no reason.
[Free is cool, companies suck, open source rocks, propriety stinks]
Yeah... RIGHT. In fact, I'd say the opposite. Free apps are 99% time, cheap, clumsy, stupid, cluelessly crafted, companies do not always suck, they form a good development team/schedule/plan than most of the 'free app coders'. Open source itself doesn't really hurt, but opening code doesn't suddenly make any miracle either.
It'd be interesting to see what everyone's age is surrounding all this 'foss' mess. (im 26) I doubt anyone in the industry for over 10 years really get excited about this 'foss' movement.
James
· 1 year ago
Young folks typically hate THE MAN simply because they are *not* THE MAN. If the tables were turned -- and eventually they will be THE MAN -- they will have a far different perspective on the matter.
FOSS is a disaster. Plain and simple. It's possible to eke out some success by using it in a very narrow role but, if you put all your chips on the table for FOSS, you're going to get fucked.
Jam
· 1 year ago
Regarding usabiltity of Linux software and the lack of respect from open source people: I tend to agree. There are a few people, mostly in the Ubuntu/Gnome camp that get usability.
However the whole ecosystem is not designed for average users and it feels: how stupid is it that I have to get a new version of a distro to have new hardware supported?
How stupid is it that I have to upgrade my whole distro to get new software?
Etc. This crops up everyone. Linux really sucks - yet I still use it :(
dexter
· 1 year ago
boooring...This blog used to be fun to read...Now just plain shitty repeating of same few things...come on dude, get a grip and start to write, i can google links myself, dont need you to point them for me!
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
Right, dexter, because you knew of all those links beforehand. You're so cool.
Simon
· 1 year ago
For Debian vs. Ubuntu you missed the most funny ones:
1) Stability and Security I didn't think anyone would use this "reasons" since the Debian OpenSSL disaster. The badly wanted "stability" causes a less secure system in my opinion (OpenSSL backporting disaster again and many outdated packages for not so common software).
2) Strictly Free Software NO end user understands this stupid Iceweasel case. Oh sorry, Debian is just for servers because of 1) ;)
thecodewitch
· 1 year ago
Darien: Please edit your comment by removing all the pasted html code. I know you're wanting to show the code, but I think its better to let people do a "view source" for themselves. Your comment looks like spam.
Sneakernets
· 1 year ago
That stress ball's looking mighty nice right about now.
whitetigersx
· 1 year ago
And of course I pay a lot of money for IE. Shoot that's half of my yearly technology budget.
Darien
· 1 year ago
Ditto.
LIZ
· 1 year ago
DEATH TO LINUX!
ALLAH AKBAR!
Eric
· 1 year ago
Funny thing is, you can access the homepage http://catalin.francu.com/ with IE just fine, and if you switch the linked page back in forth with IE tab in Firefox, it displays the same page/message. Looks like another well designed product (in this instance a website) from a 'holier-than-thou-smug-sniffing' freetard. ;)
buh
· 1 year ago
Why didn't you include the linux audio rant link I sent you?
I understand the reason most would not make their software/OS open source but considering what a fiasco Vista is - releasing the source code to the public might be the only way MS will get talented programmers to fix all the slow performance issues of Vista."
This is the funniest comment I have read on the planet. The keyword is "talented".
Crunchinator
· 1 year ago
I thought Linux users were supposed to be smart. If they want to fix the slow performance in Vista why not turn off unneeded services and applications? It's easier than messing with Xorg.conf. Bunch of hypocrites. It's cool to mess with esoteric config files in Linux but not a .msc in Windows.
Joseph Alois Ratzinger
· 1 year ago
You're right - that is absolutely priceless !!!
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
Another funny thing is "slow performance" ... after SP1, Vista is plenty fast. Typical douche reporting.
Freeman
· 1 year ago
Specially considering the hog that is GTK and specially Gnome. Even more considering that a typical Gnome desktop looks like something from the early 90's
Huygens
· 1 year ago
About ~/. I do not know which language you studied, but since when the symbol '~' would mean 'anti'? It just means 'tilde', or in mathematics, in combination with an equal sign drawn directly under it, it would mean approximatively equal. And when talking about matrix, we use this symbol to speak about the "mineur correspondant" (I do not know the English word for it) which is used into calculating the determinant of a matrix. Before bashing others ;-) you should take care of yourself! Cheers,
johnfordummies
· 1 year ago
Language syntax aside...
Phonetically, I'd rather say "bang slash dot" (!/.) than "tilde slash dot" (~/.)....... just rolls off the tounge better.
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
Along the same lines as "bang slash dot" we could use "Slashdot is my bitch."
thecodewitch
· 1 year ago
I do not know which language you studied, but since when the symbol '~' would mean 'anti'?
I know you backwards french only recently discovered indoor plumbing and electricity, so I suppose you can be forgiven for not knowing C++. So here is some free information:
In C++, ~ means DESTRUCTOR!!!!!
eg: class DeliciousFrenchPastry { public: DeliciousFrenchPastry() { // this is executed when some DeliciousFrenchPastry is instanced }
~DeliciousFrenchPastry() { // This is executed when the DeliciousFrenchPastry must be destroyed } };
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
//Before bashing others ;-) you should take care of yourself!//
Quid pro quo, doctor.
h1d
· 1 year ago
At least the way he explained, it feels right at home ;) but you cheap boys keep complaining to every single details.
Patrick
· 1 year ago
Hate the break it to you, but ~ is binary not in C and other ALGOL derived languages. ~0 == -1.
J
· 1 year ago
As a Matlab user ~/. for anti slashdot makes sense. Matlab uses a tilde to negate logical expressionsas (like ! in C). Matlab being a very, very proprietary product, that could not be further from any sort of open source concept using Matlab syntax for an anti slashdot symbol is highly apropriate.
"And F-Spot compared with Windows Photo Gallery… well, let’s say that it is so bad, that such comparison almost seems to be unfair"
Exactly what I thought when I tried Windows Photo Gallery: "f-spot sucks. This really works".
Of course, Windows Photo Gallery is created by a dedicated team while f-spot is created by amatuer C# developers.
Darren
· 1 year ago
The software pirate may not even be a pirate. There are plenty of companies that buy 20 licenses for a program (or an MSDN subscription, for example) and then go out of business. It's not expensive to buy up the licenses cheaply at the bankruptcy sale and resell them. Of course, he *may* be a pirate, but maybe not. The fact the "pirate" didn't attempt to charge money leads me to believe he might be honest anyway.
What would you people suggest as a good operating system?
I just don't like linux or the bsds cause of usability issues and windows is an administration nightmare. mac os x is plainly insecure and apple just doesn't give a crap about security issues, their gui is nothing special, really, and i certainly don't like it. any gui is implementable regardless of the os so the gui is not really a matter.
So, what do you think i should be using?
LIS
· 1 year ago
QNX is an excellent operation system.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QNX If you want a workstation, go with Windows. If you want a limited version of a workstation, go with OsX. If you want to be a web server sysadmin, go with Linux.
lemonhead
· 1 year ago
qnx?QNX? aarg LIS is DEAD
LIS
· 1 year ago
As an OS, yes, great technological achievement. Is it useful outside a very limited market? No. What's your point, anyway?
lemonhead
· 1 year ago
none :P
anoni
· 1 year ago
we are not flying jets we just use desktop computers i think thats the point
luser.net
· 1 year ago
if you want excellency go with qnx (!)
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
//mac os x is plainly insecure//
As one who has used various *nixes, Windows, AIX, HP/UX, Mac OS, MS-DOS, even the Commodore 64 ... that comment right there tells me you shouldn't be using a computer period.
MrBurns
· 1 year ago
LONG LIVE THE COMMODORE 64. Fuck Windows, Linux, OS X, BSD, Solaris, Novell. They are all shit compared to the good old C64. That's when programmers really knew how to code and took a platform to its potential (and beyond some would argue).
Ahh the good old days!
Someone
· 1 year ago
I still have my Commodore 64.
Segedunum
· 1 year ago
Now, the LSB is where I think LH gets it spot on. It's full of complete ejits, full of their own self-importance who think that they can standardise Linux just like Unix was standardised with their own pet choices of software. That worked really well.
Ulrich Drepper has already stated the obvious: "Why not use the same fucking binaries?!"
once more
· 1 year ago
"Why not use the same fucking binaries?!"
Lu
· 1 year ago
"Why not use the same fucking binaries?!!!"
PLEASE
· 1 year ago
"...use the same fucking binaries!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
NotMoreLinuxZealotry
· 1 year ago
C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!
L
· 1 year ago
well sources seem to break binaries don't ans after all its what we all use
Funny as feckin shite, as always G. Keep that shit up.
James
· 1 year ago
Let's see, you setup a blog, wrote a shitload of posts, collected other sites to laugh at, and watch these forums for posts you can respond to.
Sorry dude, but you are the one rationalizing here. But hey, everyone needs a hobby. Yours is an irrational hatred of a software development methodology. More power to ya.
Cheers!
anonymous coward
· 1 year ago
Which methodology is that? Is it the throwing shit at the fan and seeing what sticks methodology?
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
irrational hatred of FOSS ... because FOSS (other than Firefox, maybe FileZilla and a handful of other apps) is utter shit for the desktop. Yah. Irrational. Ok.
lon nol
· 1 year ago
You write very well for a five year-old! =D
Timbo
· 1 year ago
You write very well for a five year-old! =D
If he could write that well at 5, that would place his IQ well above yours, dickwad.
At least now you microtards can no longer claim that freetards are the only bashers in town. Its all relative now--congratulations. Before you attempt to call me a freetard, I use Windows Vista SP1 and commercial software on a daily basis as well.
All this crap talk about Linux means nothing to my computer illiterate father and I when we find lesser-known FOSS apps to solve the perceived functionality gaps of well-known FOSS solutions and/or humbly rape our Windows software into working on our Linux environments in a nearly perfectly fashion. Wine, Mono, and my specialized seamless terminal server software do wonders at ensuring virtually all our Windows apps work seamlessly--without requiring a local Windows install (either virtually or a dedicated partition).
Sure, a terminal server does involve a Windows machine but it can serve more than one Linux client, especially when termserv.dll is hacked to permit unlimited concurrent RDP connections. This method works fantastic even on our basic 100BaseTX LAN and 802.11g WLAN networks with my 5 year-old P4 box being the terminal server for three Linux clients and my Windows desktop, which I can use simultaneously. Oh... and don't even BS about the certain bandwidth issues. I use the new RDP compression algorithm in Vista SP1 that consumes less bandwidth in addition to all the data compression, caching, and visual detail limiting options in my modified rdesktop client.
Timbo
· 1 year ago
All this crap talk about Linux means nothing to my computer illiterate father and I when we find lesser-known FOSS apps to solve the perceived functionality gaps of well-known FOSS solutions and/or humbly rape our Windows software into working on our Linux environments in a nearly perfectly fashion...
I stopped reading right there. Face it, dipshit: Your computer illiterate father wouldn't be able to even use your craptastic FOSS software without you tweaking the shit out of it. I don't think you get it. Nobody has a Linux admin on hand to fix their fucking Linux problems when they happen on a daily basis. That's the point of this blog. I don't care how well you think you can admin your box, or whether using Linux has increased the size of your tiny penis. The fact is that you're still using a Windows desktop, so just STFU.
Someone
· 1 year ago
Actually fucktard... I spent only a couple hours making everything orgasmic and there hasn't been any issues since, minus a few websites with Flashplayer's transparency problems related to Adobe's proprietary Flashplayer software. All these were solved with either AdBlock Plus or Agent Switcher.
The terminal server is seamless so you only see the application window not the entire desktop and the applications are launched remotely from Gnome or KDE launcher icons. Besides, STS is only used when the applications cannot be ran native from Wine, CrossOver, or Mono. The effect is the same either way.
So you can just go fuck yourself in the ass with your micro dick.
Timbo
· 1 year ago
Actually fucktard... I spent only a couple hours making everything orgasmic and there hasn't been any issues since
Fucking liar. Nobody on this blog believes that you haven't had "any issues since". Total fucking bullshit.
Someone
· 1 year ago
Not everyone has problems with Linux, especially when they have a clue and actually do their research to ensure their hardware is supported. I don't have unrealistic expectations and understand that an OS with 1% marketshare doesn't support every piece of hardware under the rainbow.
I had one issue with Gyachi voice chat not working but I wrote a bug report and 3 days later a fix was released. BTW, I used Bugzilla's reporting wizard and it was quite simple.
I had to register and create a Bugzilla account... BFD.
I'm sure there are other pieces of software with bugs but I haven't ran into them yet in F9; Fedora package maintainers are prompt with security and bug fix updates and simply don't jack around.
Sorry to disappoint you but I don't masturbate to my computers OS. I'm 99% as productive with Linux as I am using Windows. I use the same exact software on both platforms so how could I not be as productive? With this in mind the choice of OS suddenly becomes uninteresting. I go about and live life (crappy as it might be).
Timbo
· 1 year ago
Not everyone has problems with Linux, especially when they have a clue and actually do their research to ensure their hardware is supported.
And yet, amazingly, you can't seem to be able to keep Flash running...
I had one issue with Gyachi voice chat not working
Ah, so you were lying earlier. Knew it. Fact is, if you were to keep a log of the problems you've had so far in getting to the point you're at, there are far more issues than you're admitting. I say that as someone who has used Linux for a decade and knows when someone is full of unrealistic shit, or has somehow deluded himself.
Sorry to disappoint you but I don't masturbate to my computers OS. I'm 99% as productive with Linux as I am using Windows.
If your productivity is essentially the same as Windows, then you're a dumbfuck for switching in the first place. Sorry, reality bites. ROI, anyone?
Someone
· 1 year ago
>> And yet, amazingly, you can't seem to be able to keep Flash running...
The transparency issue pales in comparison to the error messages I see on Windows Flashplugin on Firefox.
>> Ah, so you were lying earlier. Knew it. Fact is, if you were to keep a log of the problems you've had so far in getting to the point you're at, there are far more issues than you're admitting. I say that as someone who has used Linux for a decade and knows when someone is full of unrealistic shit, or has somehow deluded himself.
No... I've had exactly that one issue so far with Fedora 9.
I've ran into other software bugs with other distros and earlier Fedora releases but most were solved in an acceptable period of time. All software has bugs and commercial Windows software has no shortage of them.
I've had hardware issues with FreeBSD but that isn't even a related OS.
>>If your productivity is essentially the same as Windows, then you're a dumbfuck for switching in the first place. Sorry, reality bites. ROI, anyone?
I use both operating systems at will. I could easily switch solely to Linux but I own multiple machines and decided that I wanted Windows on one of them. I have a copy of Windows so why not use it... eh?
Timbo
· 1 year ago
The transparency issue pales in comparison to the error messages I see on Windows Flashplugin on Firefox.
Rrrrrrrright. AS IF Flash on Linux isn't UTTER CRAP. Crashes, no audio, poor performance, yadda, yadda. And, somehow, this is supposed to be a WINDOWS problem, right douchebag?
No... I've had exactly that one issue so far with Fedora 9.
And a zillion other issues on previous installations that you'd rather not talk about...
I use both operating systems at will.
What an utter and complete waste of time. Apparently, your time isn't worth anything.
Someone
· 1 year ago
Speaking of which I've been having problems with Flash video playback on Windows as well.
I'm constantly nagged with error message boxes while watching Flash videos from certain sites. Luckily I haven't noticed it on Youtube yet...
Timbo
· 1 year ago
Speaking of which I've been having problems with Flash video playback on Windows as well.
LMFAO! Poor dumbfuck can't even handle Flash.
I'm constantly nagged with error message boxes while watching Flash videos from certain sites.
Yeah, gay porn sites.
Someone
· 1 year ago
Actually yes... porn sites.
The errors appear quite often of video porn sites like Tube8 and YouPorn.
I don't want gay porn, however. I correlate gay porn and sex in general with AIDS transmission.
Jerry
· 1 year ago
"hasn't been any issues since"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Dude, stop. All OSes require maintenance. Everybody knows it. Denying it is only going to dig you a bigger hole.
"So you can just go fuck yourself in the ass with your micro dick."
Erm, genius, perhaps you could explain how he can fuck himself in the ass if he has a micro dick? What are you, like 10 or something? What a maroon.
Someone
· 1 year ago
Indeed... all OSes require maintenance. I do routine junk file, gconf, and symbolic link cleanings with a Cleansweep-like programs called fslint and gconf-cleaner.
I also perform periodic rootkit scanning with chkrootkit and rkhunter but have never been infected.
Simple... the diameter of his shit hole is 38 microns; whereas his cock is 32 microns in diameter. That is 3 microns of side cushion for a perfect fit.
Oh yea... and calling me "maroon" is pretty intelligent as well. I'm a white caucasian FYI.
Jerry
· 1 year ago
Indeed... all OSes require maintenance. I do routine junk file, gconf, and symbolic link cleanings with a Cleansweep-like programs called fslint and gconf-cleaner.
In other words, you were lying.
A. You DO have maintenance issues.
B. If your computer illiterate father didn't have you administering his box for him, it would get just as fucked up as a box running any other OS.
Simple... the diameter of his shit hole is 38 microns; whereas his cock is 32 microns in diameter. That is 3 microns of side cushion for a perfect fit.
You're gay to even think that up. Face it: You smoke pole. Get therapy.
Oh yea... and calling me "maroon" is pretty intelligent as well. I'm a white caucasian FYI.
You must be an adolescent; otherwise, you'd recognize the obvious reference to one of Bugs Bunny's more famous quotes...
"Actually fucktard... I spent only a couple hours making everything orgasmic"
:rolleyes:
It's such commentary that tells a fanboi from someone who's still living in reality. Ever run a production server? Ever tried to keep *nix (or even *bsd) up for longer than 12hrs to work on scripting and all? It doesn't stay up, it's as flaccid as the dickless wonders who proclaim *nix and *bsd are God's greatest gift. That's the entire problem with *nix and *bsd, it's not ready for primetime.
Server admins have to do more than just babysit services and reporting to their boss who is freaking ballastic because mail keeps crashing. *nix and *bsd server admins are literal gnomes, they spend their days tweaking the innards, and probably never get out of their cubicle to even take a bath.
Real world folks have to get in, do their work and get off (as there's something more in life than living on Web 2.0), not babysit hackware.
Stallmanix
· 1 year ago
The best thing about that TS trick it is that you do not need the source code.
Where did you get a rdesktop version that supports the rdp6 features?
Timbo
· 1 year ago
The best thing about that TS trick it is that you do not need the source code.
Which proves that freedom has nothing to do with source code.
Jean Azzopardi
· 1 year ago
The problem with LH’s blog isn’t the blog itself. While the guy is a bit inflammatory, he does point out the problems in Linux. However, some of the commentors are obvious trolls, I usually ignore them.
Personally, I use Linux a lot, I like the OS, but you must admit, it does have serious problems blocking it from the Desktop. Some are not entirely of its own design - drivers not released by manufacturers, but others are.
It’s good if Linux users stop looking at Linux if it was the OS to end all OSes, take a look at the other OSes, see what they do well (instead of denigrating them for using different licenses or for just being what they are), and try to beat them. Not copy them. Beat them. Impossible? Hardly. And try to standardise a little. That’s another major problem. Stop re-inventing the wheel, do some compromises and join efforts. Zealotry must stop, now.
Snaury
· 1 year ago
Blocking IE is pretty dumb. I might not like IE, but in my company there's a policy that employees can use IE only. In fact our proxy just BLOCKS Firefox and Opera user agents. So even though I'd like to install Firefox, not with my job.
Rythmisian
· 1 year ago
" I'm trying to play videos using mplayer for my wife, but she farts in my face everytime I have to look at the man page to remember the options. "
Mplayer has an excellent QT GUI named smplayer. It utilizes all the feetures of mplayer and is very easy to use.
There are some other GUIS (gnome-mplayer and gmplayer) but yes, the truth is, they are very bad.
ChrisTek
· 1 year ago
"[My wife]’s been patient learning OpenOffice.org, of which I think she’s actually enjoying. Further, to increase her skill set for her resume, she has asked me to train her in depth with Linux, so she can teach others should she ever go back into education. That’s my girl!"
Ah, don't these *nix and *bsd fanbois understand that not everyone even cares about *nix and *bsd? Sure I use both on servers, but it's such a damn chore that it's more time than not. Either mail or clamav will crash (and having to wait 10 minutes for them to restart - 10 minutes downtime on servers is potential lost sales knuckleheads!); or Apache2 decides to eat up all the available memory, because every damn seat takes 2MB -- woe anyone on a VPS or a 1GB test server (let alone frontend). Windows XP? If it crashes in 2 months (and I'm on the computer 12hrs a day as I'm doing 3D/video/graphic/web design work), it's a miracle. Mail will always be up (and virus free -- been online since 1985, and only got *1* virus that was killed by the AV in transit, and I've been using Windows since 3.11 workgroups!); and IE doesn't try to change the color of my UI, just so FF can have it's splashy color.
Been through the openware, freeware, betaware and simply tired of the run around. Time=money, and I can't waste it tracking down 1001 bugs, then trying to explain a bug to rabid fanbois more interested in saving the Titanic (or rearranging the deck chairs) than trying to fix or improve the software. Have work to do, and it's not working for dogs that need a rabies vaccination.
It's a two way street. *nix and *bsd want respect, but respect comes via userability, not trading insults or trying to pass trash (e.g., Linux doesn't get viruses <-- the real n00b) as the truth. Whatever OS that works without the bugs and arcane work flows (or trying to proclaim users need to be Einstein or Doofus) is the one I'll use, period. Don't care if 100000000000000001 *nix or *bsd lovers get upset. Life is too damn precious to fight over "my dick is larger than your dick". :rolleyes:
marco simao
· 1 year ago
First, its not really *nix, since LINUX is *UX, its FULLY POSIX Compliant, thing that your fucking beloved windows, JUST EMULATES. Well, ive learned all i know with windows, and dont hate it, but the last versions really sucks, have a HIGHER price with nothing really NEW. Well, u can fight, scream, laugh out loud, but, hey, what is loosing the market?!?!?! What is becoming obsolete, unusuable and very insecure, dont work out of the box??? hahahahaha well, in the future, use Microsoft Office, the only software that microsoft will still sell. linux haters are a joke, and some day, humm, u will use linux! ha! huahuhauhauhauhuahuhau despite differences, best regards for all!
ps: im my company, its 100% open source, and we're going very well. Ask for our ps2: but im still waiting for the new windows, and try, maybe it get better ;]
Bodhibuilder
· 1 year ago
Ballmer is an idiot. His overreacting and rants against free software are what got me into linsux in the first place. Fuck you, Steve! I want my life back! :) On the other hand I was always amazed by the stupidity of asking whether MS is going to go open source. It is like asking Rockefeller whether he is going to give all his money away and join the Krishna's.
thecodewitch
· 1 year ago
Identical thing happened to me. I remember years ago seeing videos of this guy prancing around on stage, yelling and sweating profusely. How easy it was to make fun of him and how easy it was to see linux as a good alternative.
Now, my view is so different. Even Ballmer at his most ridiculous DOESN'T COME CLOSE to the very real jackassery and total, utter EPIC FAILNESS of linux and its community of frothing at the mouth zombie fucking lemmings.
Ballmer at least is a guy you can respect on some level - his position is clear. He wants MS to keep making several metric tonnes of cash per second, and he's not queasy about yelling and screaming to fucking do it. MS wants to stay relevant to its customers, wants to remain competitive, and they make products as best they can to do so. MS likes having customers, so when they fuck up, they have a strong incentive to do their level best to fix it. Interesting how despite the best efforts of thousands of linux douches around the world to discredit Vista, Vista quietly gets its bugs fixed, continues to sell gigacopies, and linux remains broken and ignored, despite being free. Here's an old dusty clue that bears repeating: If your software is free and people still don't want it, the problem isn't Microsoft. Its you.
Freeman
· 1 year ago
When a new MS OS is released, Freetards always believe that they'll make the Linux on the Desktop Thing happen if they badmouth it with intensity. Thing is, in the end everybody realises it's all just a big lie, rediscover the fact that Linux is still pure crap and go on with their lives.
Wait until Windows 7 for history to repeat itself.
trooper9
· 1 year ago
Here's an old dusty clue that bears repeating: If your software is free and people still don't want it, the problem isn't Microsoft. Its you.
Damn. That hurts. True, but hurts.
thatGuy
· 1 year ago
If your software is free and people still don't want it, the problem isn't Microsoft. Its you.
Which is precisely why he's now the leading figure of the world's richest software company, and you're not. Got it. *He* is the idiot. Of course.
Freetard jackasses simply cannot fathom reality.
Anonymous
· 1 year ago
No, he is an idiot. He is passionate, has no ability to be embarrassed, but his constant attempts to buy Yahoo, to think he can beat Google, Zune (do I need to say more, fine machine, few want it though), OOXML (wish I could see the line item cost on that lame idea), now wanting to think more like Apple. Balmer's problem, he thinks he can win, on every front, and won't give up on any, dragging the decent divisions down with the wet dream that once again, MS will be everything to everyone. It will never happen, and the sooner smarter heads get him out of there, and they refocus on their core competencies, MS will be much better off.
I mean seriously, why freeze your own market, dramatically reducing Vista uptake with talk of bringing Windows 7 to market sooner, then, spend $300M pushing Vista. Either push Vista and improve it, ot give up on it and rush Windows 7. With enterprise adoption languishing, Windows 7 must be phenomenal, literally.
Why doesn't he just get back to the mandate of make the best software, people will want it, instead of after the fact, trying to prove that it is, in fact, really good, the consumer is wrong. It makes my head hurt.
Balmer needs to go, sooner, before more damage is done to MS.
Phillip
· 1 year ago
No, he is an idiot.
Rrrright. The Harvard graduate. The billionaire. The head of the world's most successful software company. A moron. Quoth the anonymous Freetard. Thanks for the input, dipshit.
He is passionate, has no ability to be embarrassed,...
His job is to keep his company motivated and growing. His methods may be unconventional, but there are few companies that rake in the kind of money that Microsoft makes every quarter.
... but his constant attempts to buy Yahoo, ...
Google's search/advertising business has reached the point where acquisition is the only credible means for Microsoft to gain market share. Google has First Mover Advantage. These aren't mysterious concepts. Try taking a few business school classes or get an MBA, and maybe you'll understand.
to think he can beat Google
Not competing with Google isn't an option. Microsoft and Google's growth strattegies are diametrically opposed. Google is trying to sell people on thin client/cloud-based computing. Microsoft is selling a combination of cloud and rich client software. Google is trying to replace Microsoft Office with Open Office in enterprises. So, get real, Microsoft can't ignore the competitive threat, and not trying isn't going to happen, dumbass.
Zune (do I need to say more, fine machine, few want it though),...
What do you have against competition? Do you really want every market to be inhabited by a single monopolist and have to pay top dollar for everything?
OOXML (wish I could see the line item cost on that lame idea)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but OOXML is MS Office's preferred XML document save format, not ODF. Whether you like it or not, OOXML is going to have far greater market penetration than ODF ever will.
Balmer's problem, he thinks he can win, on every front, and won't give up on any, dragging the decent divisions down with the wet dream that once again, MS will be everything to everyone.
That's ridiculous. Microsoft is the world's biggest software company. It needs to invest in emerging and mature markets to promote its own platforms. Without that investment, competitors will encroach continually on its mature products (eg. Office, Windows), and threaten its revenue stream. That's the nature of competition. Deciding not to compete is bullshit. Knowing when to quit is another story. You don't seem able to distinguish the two.
I mean seriously, why freeze your own market, dramatically reducing Vista uptake with talk of bringing Windows 7 to market sooner, then, spend $300M pushing Vista. Either push Vista and improve it, ot give up on it and rush Windows 7. With enterprise adoption languishing, Windows 7 must be phenomenal, literally.
Because companies have given Microsoft feedback that they want to know Microsoft's platform delivery schedule. Windows 7 won't be ready for another year and a half. Companies won't adopt for another year after that. You seem to think that WIn7 is imminent. It ain't.
Why doesn't he just get back to the mandate of make the best software, people will want it, instead of after the fact, trying to prove that it is, in fact, really good, the consumer is wrong. It makes my head hurt.
Who, exactly, is trying to prove that the consumer is wrong? And what are they doing?
Balmer needs to go, sooner, before more damage is done to MS.
No offense, but you're just an anonymous douchebag. Your opinion doesn't mean dick.
Anonymous
· 1 year ago
So a Harvard graduate can't be an idiot? He is the head of the company, looking like an idiot doesn't help the corporate image. So they should buy Yahoo (wasting their reserves) but can't compete against Google. You aren't even consistent between paragraphs. Which is it? Zune (and ALL others, I have no iAnything) good idea, but it was executed VERY badly. A new DRM, stab your partners... OOXML - No, it isn't the new format, MS is now going to waste thousands of person years converting to OOXML, while adding ODF and even after MS themselves admit ODF won. That's sound business I tell ya. MS themselves stated they are too thin. They can't win on all fronts, but Blamer will NEVER CONCEDE ANY market. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10005379-16.html "our competitors that are focused on narrower product lines may be more effective in devoting technical, marketing, and financial resources to compete with us." You can spin it all you want, Windows 7 talk, and the moving up of it's schedule is due to the original Vista problems. They MUST freeze the market (which they are great at doing), to hedge any thought of moving to something else. Why then spend $300M in a useless attempt to re-energize Vista (which, regardless of how good Vista is no, will never work, that ship has sailed). Vista Capable/Ready lawsuit. Blame the drivers campaign, the new push that Vista is now ready... Balmer is not COO material, he will continue to hurt the company, whether you like it or not, they need a real COO.
douchebag out
bodhibuilder
· 1 year ago
Funny you should mention that. Stallman is a Harvard graduate too. So is G.W. Bush.
Freeman
· 1 year ago
"Why doesn't he just get back to the mandate of make the best software, people will want it, instead of after the fact, trying to prove that it is, in fact, really good, the consumer is wrong."
It's funny. That's what freetards always claim about Linux.
bodhibuilder
· 1 year ago
Suprisingly, nobody quite got my point, and I was even called freetard, lol. What I was trying to say is that Ballmer's bashing linsux is what in fact gives it the greatest publicity. It were Ballmer's words that made me think that linsux is bigger and better than it really is and that somehow MS is afraid of it. Gates just said that linsux is a hobby thing, Ballmer went on to call it "a competitor", cancer, and a threat to business model. He is a perfect example of "trying to hard".
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
//Ballmer is an idiot. His overreacting and rants against free software are what got me into linsux in the first place.//
So you call the leader of Microsoft an idiot, and then admit that you use Linux, and are surprised that "nobody got your point" and you were "even called a freetard."
Please hit yourself with a clue bat before you post.
bodhibuilder
· 1 year ago
Where did I admit to using Linux? And you're the one talking about the clue. Pure self-ownage if I've ever seen one. Guess, that bashing linsux doesn't automatically make you smart. EOT
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
//His overreacting and rants against free software are what got me into linsux in the first place//
So ... you "got into linsux in the first place" but you don't use it? WTF? Clue bat ready and waiting ...
bodhibuilder
· 1 year ago
Yeah, I've used linux, got fed up with it, came to my senses and returned to usable software. Seriously, I don't get it. Did I make any grammar mistake or something that made my post ambiguous or are you dense for real?
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
Maybe because you never mentioned, until your latest post, that you "came to your senses and returned to usable software." All you did was continue to bash Ballmer. Seriously, do I need to re-post every comment you made, or are you this fucked up for eternity? Probably the latter. Go take a composition class.
bodhibuilder
· 1 year ago
So just because I don't like linsux I must automatically love Ballmer? Well, that seems awfully like "Hate Windows=Love Stallman" equation. And assuming that person who writes "linsux" is a linux user ... well, sir, that's very bright of you. Guess that thinking you're smart often makes you act stupid. I guess you figured already that this clue bat is going up your ass.
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
Wow, you're a shitcock. Completely unable to follow a logical train of thought, even when you try to construct it. Maybe you *should* go back to linux. You're polluting the gene pool.
bodhibuilder
· 1 year ago
Well, in case you haven't noticed it isn't me who jumps to conclusions after reading first two sentences of the post responds to it violently without reading it fully and has trouble admitting it. But what do I know? I'm a shitcock, freetard without a clue, right?
Darien
· 1 year ago
I don’t understand.
I have been using various releases of Windows, personally and professionally (as a system/network administrator, Systems Engineer), since WFW 3.11. Since using every version of Windows from Windows NT Workstation 4 up to Vista Ultimate, I have not had the misfortune of “. . . losing Windows . . . to a slew of viruses, malware, trojans and any other form of badware.”
Now, don’t get me wrong. In my present position, I use Windows and RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.6 and 5.1/2 at work). I have multiple VM instances of various Linux distributions along with Sun’s offering, Solaris. On a couple of my older laptops, I have PC Linux OS 2007, OpenSUSE 11, and RHEL 5.1 loaded. I make mention of this to illustrate that I am very supportive of the Open Source Software movement
What is going on that causes a computer to get infected with a “slew” of malware? That is not a limitation of the operating system, but I function of the user’s browsing and usage habits.
However, I do have to admit that due to my position, I am able to run the corporate version of Symantec Antivirus (which is less obtrusive and obtuse as the retail version) on all of my personal systems. SAV Corp--especially the latest releases such as 10.1.7000.7 for XP and 10.2.0.276 for Vista--does a very good job of protecting Windows based system from the “slew” of Trojans and mal/bad-ware.
unbutusux
· 1 year ago
It's not surprising some people manage to.
They run a non-patched copy of XP (sometimes RTM, no SP), they're logged in as an admin, they're using internet explorer, they blindly click on anything, they run any .exe from any shady website or P2P (95% likely a virus or trojan), and will surely open freeporn.jpg.exe from their email.
Some people need to be protected from themselves. Somehow, they think what they're doing is Windows' fault, funny.
Disgusted
· 1 year ago
It's plain and simple... Mr. Toponce's wife and/or kids are surfing for porn and illegal downloads. My family has a Windows XP machine with Symantec Firewall installed and automatic updates enabled. It's trivial to keep it running smoothly. It's been over two years since I installed Windows and its never had a malware or trojan or spyware infection.
luser
· 1 year ago
I don't believe you. I've seen win2k servers become infected with the blaster worm after some hours connected to the Net without a firewall (test machine) by a certified Cisco network administrator(!). Later he kept asking who installed an IRC server on the machine (!) via the floppy drive(!) in an effort to avoid the blame for this (2 people had access to the machine only, he and I, I never touched the machine, I realised it was infected by looking at the blinking switch LED, it had 200 connections to every part of the world). Even with a firewall, I doubt that you never had infected windows machines (laptops) connect to the network. I've just seen so many I consider your claim impossible.
What really gets my attention is line 2 that reads, “Internet Explorer is a poor browser. It cannot even render standard HTML and CSS (which are well-specified and render properly in other browsers). Examples include transparent PNG images, which show up gray, and dotted borders, which show as dashed borders.”
What is even more interesting is that IE7 (version 7.0.6000.16681) from Vista Ultimate renders all of the PNG images properly. I guess the poster, like many other IE haters, is using an old version of IE. Maybe 5.5 or an unpatched 6.0?
Wow, a poor browser that cannot render standard HTML. Hmm, popular web sites such as these listed below sure seem to render well.
<div class="indent vspaced"> DEX online is the online Romanian dictionary. I launched the project in August 2001 and, with the help of an amazing team of volunteers, it grew to 360,000 definitions. It runs exclusively on free software and its database is freely available under the GNU Free Documentation License. DEX online is my baby, until I'm mature enough to have real babies. The entire page and links are in Romanian only. </div>
<div class="indent vspaced"> Nilatac is a suicide chess engine I wrote back when "free time" had a meaning. It is active 24/7 on FICS, where it is one of the better suicide programs, and its opening book is available online. Suicide chess, despite its morbid name, is a fascinating game; some say it rivals classical chess in complexity. It is played on a standard chess board, but the aim is to lose all your pieces (and captures are mandatory). I haven't worked on Nilatac for a while, save for minor opening research. But I dream of the day when I will. Nilatac is free software. </div>
<div class="indent vspaced"> In my spare time I typeset some Romanian choral scores. I used Lilypond, the music notation software. All the resulting scores are free for you to copy, modify and/or redistribute. They include Christmas carols, folklore, and a complete score for the Orthodox liturgy in Romanian. </div>
<div class="indent vspaced"> Naturally, I have more family members than these (in fact I have a large and vivid family), but here are the ones with web pages: </div>
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My dad Sorin <span class="deemph">(Romanian)</span>
<div class="indent vspaced"> That is where I'm from. I'm glad to have seen the world, but I'm even gladder whenever I go back there. Romania is a 22,000,000-people country in Eastern Europe, bordering the Black Sea, slightly smaller than the UK. Pope John Paul II once called it Garden of Virgin Mary. We love soccer, alcohol and good jokes and we know the meaning of dolce far niente better than most. But we've been known to work occasionally and accomplished many good things. Romania is currently going through an impressive economic boom. There are many superb corners in this country; the following links are to places that I happen to love.
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Links: <div class="indent"> Virtual Romania will one day be the ultimate guide to Romania <span class="deemph">(work in progress)</span>
Petru Vodă is a monastery founded in 1991. More photos
<div class="indent vspaced"> I'm a proud MIT nerd. Before that, I was a mediocre student at the Politehnica University of Bucharest, where I failed five classes in three years. I decided that I would rather transfer to MIT and leave the country than retake those exams. Before that, I went to the High-School of Computer Science in Bucharest, during some of its best years. I also taught there for one year, which I greatly enjoyed. </div>
<div class="indent vspaced"> To put it plainly, none of my computer science work could exist without free software. My main accomplishments so far, DEX online and Nilatac, rely completely on free software. Even this web page is created and served using dozens of free programs. I have profited a lot from free software and I tried to give something back. I believe that software should be free and that our understanding of copyright and software patents should change. So, like, bow down to free software, or something.
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Chlorus
· 1 year ago
Would someone please delete that frakking comment? Its too damn long and adds nothing to this discussion.
thecodewitch
· 1 year ago
Second. Now that we've replied, he can't edit it anyways.
Chlorus
· 1 year ago
Oh fuck, didn't know that replying would lock out editing. He sure was taking his sweet time to fix though.
thecodewitch
· 1 year ago
This fucking thing still here??
Linux Rules
· 1 year ago
Linux rules! If you don't agree, you will die from cancer.
linux rules doesn't rule
· 1 year ago
You should go outside and put a shotgun at your head and pull the trigger! If you don't agree, you will have to go outside, put a shotgun at your head and pull the trigger...... What is wrong with you ??
Timbo
· 1 year ago
Linux rules! If you don't agree, you will die from cancer.
Try to remember that someday, when you're laying on your deathbed, choking on your own phlegm, douchebag. It ain't gonna be pretty.
Thanks for giving me some Google juice, and ultimately, more readers. Good press or bad press, is still press.
In regards to my posts that you linked, honesty in my family has always been the best policy. While the Linux community, and it's kernel, are not perfect, we are a good group. We get things done, and seem to do so efficiently. Further, the ones referring to Microsoft as M$, etc. are the vocal group. There are many a Linux user who are not vocal, who don't refer to Microsoft in such a manner. Being a Linux trainer for my bread and butter, I see the non-vocal group every week.
Further, I don't know why my post about my family going "Windows-free" is laughable. Using Ubuntu Linux and Mac OS X meets the needs of my family. Why is that funny? Certainly, Windows meets the needs of others, and that's just fine.
.net jerkface
· 1 year ago
Your daughter is an infant, and she will only accept being in a "Windows-free" environment while her brain is undeveloped and thus incapable of taking part in this inevitable conversation:
Hey dad I put my barbie fashion designer cd into the computer and I got a message stating that Ubuntu can't find any music files to play. What is the problem?
Oh that cd is for Windows, we use Linux. I'm raising you in a Windows-free environment.
Well then Linux sucks. I want Windows.
Don't you want to be a part of the Linux revolution?
No, I would rather play barbie fashion designer.
thecodewitch
· 1 year ago
Or worse yet - after seeing her friends using functional, polished software on other operating systems, and comparing it to her nightmarish experience with broken linux software you force on her, she'll either develop an inferiority complex because she'll think the reason you make her use linux is she is not worthy of anything else, or she'll grow to resent you more and more, until she rebels by going to work at Microsoft, her anger fuelling her eventual rise to CEO, at which point she will unleash her epic wrath and violent fury on linux and its dweeby lemming, basement dwelling loser followers, especially her dorky parents.
She'll write such awesome software, linux nerds worldwide will weep in the streets or throw themselves into active volcanos in shame, all while cursing the name of Stallman and the other varied douches.
This is a real possibility you should consider.
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
A very authentic LAUGH OUT LOUD emanated from my pie hole while reading that. Well done!
thecodewitch
· 1 year ago
Thank you!
Anonymous
· 1 year ago
"Or worse yet - after seeing her friends using functional, polished software on other operating systems"
Why, do all her friends use Apple? It isn't Windows if it's functional and polished (has either of these applied to any Windows program simultaneously?) It probably isn't seeing others use the Linux EEE or the new Acer Aspire One, they sell out way too quickly, I can't find any.
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
Office 2007 On Vista SP1 isn't functional and polished? You're beyond stupid. Oh, and since I don't shop for computers at WalMart, it's no surprise I can't get my hands on a Linux EEE Doorstop Edition.
Visitor
· 1 year ago
What I do not understand, and what for some people would require explanation, is how did you manage to pick up a "slew of viruses, malware, trojans and any other form of badware". Isn't that somewhat odd considering it is coming from the blog of someone who certainly knows about this threat and reads it nearly every time he reads anything from a Linux user regarding Windows? And really, it is not as though it is difficult to defend against the threat. I can see getting A - single - virus - after all, I once got one myself, in more than 12 years. How did YOU get "a slew"? And how does it work out to be easier to switch platforms, than to install Spyware Doctor and any of a large number of highly effective, free-for-home-use anti-virus programs?
bic
· 1 year ago
Agreed. There's no reason anyone with half a brain should get more than a couple viruses per decade, at the most. Don't open email attachments from people you don't know, don't download everything you see, avoid shady back-alley websites, and set up IE so it doesn't run unsigned scripts (or better yet, use a decent browser like Opera or Firefox).
It's not that hard to understand.
Chlorus
· 1 year ago
"How did YOU get "a slew"? "
Methinks someone went on a porn binge.
Aaron Toponce
· 1 year ago
No. No porn enters this house. It was simply looking for a password to a program that lead to a zipped executable.
Trooper9
· 1 year ago
LOL.
So. A warez binge then...
Visitor
· 1 year ago
It would be interesting to know more about this strange and unusual case because, to be honest, what you relate seems *highly* improbable - a "slew of viruses, malware, trojans and any other form of badware" were able to infect a machine with "MacAfee Antivirus, Lavasoft Adaware, Spybot Search and Destroy and Windows Defender all installed"... ALL by the user clicking on ONE exe? Of course, I could be wrong about that last part because your statement "It was simply looking for a password to a program that lead to a zipped executable" is not exactly clear, unless you are euphemistically saying that she downloaded a crack that was, in fact, malware.
Aaron Toponce
· 1 year ago
I know precisely how she got the viruses and crap on the computer. What's funny about the whole thing, is I had MacAfee Antivirus, Lavasoft Adaware, Spybot Search and Destroy and Windows Defender all installed, yet none of them could clean my computer, and none of them detected the intrusion. Effective software that is.
Freeman
· 1 year ago
Sounds like you should teach her the basics of computer security, not Linux. That knowledge is useful in any operating system anyway.
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
Funny, my wife's Vista install has McAfee installed as well, and she never got a "slew of viruses and crap" on her laptop, going on 1.5 years. Email, websurfing is all she does.
Your wife needs even more education on how to properly surf the web. But she shouldn't get it from you.
Mayor McCheese
· 1 year ago
Try pulling your head out of your ass and you'd realize Windows works better than Linux or OS X.
me
· 1 year ago
Dude, grow up.
Aaron Toponce
· 1 year ago
This is the type of fanaticism that I refer to in my post. However, you're giving it from the Windows community, rather than Linux. Rather than take a fan-boy attitude about any single operating system, why not take a step back, look at the advantages and disadvantages of all, and make an open-minded decision about one of them? I have.
fredtcat
· 1 year ago
I think your post is laughable not because of your pro-Linux stance, but the way you talk of your wife learning OpenOffice in such a patronizing fashion. "That's my girl!" !!!??? Sounds like you are talking to your 8 year daughter. My wife is comfortable with Windows and Microsoft Office. I've tried the old operating system switcheroo bit on her before and she rightly told me where to shove it... She is a good test case because she has the realistic expectation that Linux apps should work just as well as windows apps. But they don't, and those of us who have used Linux long enough sort of, almost unconsciously, lower our standards and overlook a lot of these little usability problems.
Let's face it, your wife is being patient with OpenOffice because it's such a shoddy product compared to MS Office. Other than the additional and improved drawing tools in Impress, I can't find anything to like about. The day will come when her patience will wear thin, particularly when she really needs to get something done and all the OpenOffice quirks become time wasters.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy using Linux in a limited fashion... It's good for web browsing and simple programming tasks, but my stress level went through the roof if when I tried recently to use Linux as my primary work machine. Sure it booted faster than Windows and at times seemed more responsive, but I fought constant battles getting MS Office documents to import correctly in OpenOffice, and had networking, wi-fi, and printer issues on a daily basis. Mostly though, it was the tiny bits of FOSS flakiness that over time made me grow weary every time I sat down at my PC. Those little intangibles of UI design that, when executed poorly, cause fatigue and stress.
Until Linux solves those problems, and you stop treating your wife like she is a silly little thing who, like you, needs to accept Linux wholeheartedly, we will continue laughing.
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
Not only the OOO vs Office 2007 issue ... but methinks his family needs "proper computer usage" training in general. My wife has been using Vista for 1.5 years, with *NONE* of the problems that his wife incurred. PEBKAC?
Aaron Toponce
· 1 year ago
The reference to "that's my girl!" had nothing to do with using OpenOffice.org, but everything to do with her never-ending quest for education. She is interested in learning Linux, so she can take that knowledge with her, further increasing her skill sets and becoming more valuable as a technology educator.
It sounds like you haven't sat down at a Linux machine, however. Linux solves many, many problems. Enough, that Google, Amazon, IBM, HP and even Microsoft find problem solving with Linux. Must be a pretty shoddy product with those heavy-weights behind it.
Phillip
· 1 year ago
The reference to "that's my girl!" had nothing to do with using OpenOffice.org, but everything to do with her never-ending quest...
"... to cope with my anachronistic chauvinism (and denial, when somebody calls me on it..." (there, fixed it for you)
It sounds like you haven't sat down at a Linux machine, however.
Don't kid yourself. ALL of us have used Linux. I've used it for YEARS, in grad school, at work, at home, etc.
Linux solves many, many problems.
It also CREATES many, many problems. Which is the focus of this blog.
Enough, that Google, Amazon, IBM, HP and even Microsoft find problem solving with Linux. Must be a pretty shoddy product with those heavy-weights behind it.
First, Google, Amazon, and many others are using custom versions of Linux that their professional staffs maintain. They're not depending on "the community" to support them. Second, nearly all of these organizations are using Linux in a limited server role. They're not using it on the desktop. Third, Microsoft primarily uses Windows XP/Vista/Server 2003 internally. You're kidding yourself if you think that they use Linux in any substantial way.
thecodewitch
· 1 year ago
Blammo!
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
If you can use OOO in place of Office 2007, then bully for you. Anyone with a job that needs a real spreadsheet application and tight integration for fluid workflow will likely find Office 2007 light years ahead of OOO. Pivot tables anyone?
B1663r
· 1 year ago
General day to day use without all sorts of annoying quirks anyone???
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
Quirks such as ... ??? In all seriousness if you find Office 2007 too hard to use, you're beyond stupid. Or a freetard. Or both.
B1663r
· 1 year ago
I think you misunderstood me.
Also, I think you were streching to look at pivot tables as a problem with OOo. OOo's problems are much more immediate and apparent than pivot tables.
Like... OOo has significant general all around usability problems...
SAGA
· 1 year ago
hmm...............
Out of worlds top 500 supercomputers 426 are powered by linux..........may be they are not good in pc's
if you go with microsoft and windows you never learn what is a kernel.........and you will always be a application developer.................
I believe for science and engineering linux is the best!
Stavros
· 1 year ago
You know, the concept of a kernel is pretty basic comp sci. You don't need Linux to teach you that. What Linux does teach you about kernels, though is an in depth lesson about the atrocity that is a monolithic kernel, it also teaches you how to not maintain a stable ABI and break applications with every other point release.
You're like those lusers who're all "you probably don't even know what a Window Manager does", while this is also basic comp sci, it bloody masnages windows, precisely as the term suggests.
Anyway, I don't dispute that Linux is more suited for engineering and science (not my field), but I don'tr see why the BSDs or Solaris wouldn't be just as well suited for the task. As always, it's about using the best tool for the job; why would I care, as a graphic designer/musician, that Linux is better suited for science/engineering? Likewise why would you care that Windows/Mac OS is better suited for multimedia, as a scientist/engineer?
Why would I care about 426 of the top supercomputers? It's a moot point, it's not as if anyone here has access to one. It's like the freedom to modify code argument, it just isn't interesting to a non-developer.
omgsorry
· 1 year ago
katarxin psofa
secondly do you have have any proof of abi breakage? I'm just looking for some examples.
also wtf would you know about monolithic kernels and their advantages/disadvantages anyway? one word, latency. and no, i don't like latency in my tcp/ip stack, in my audio or my graphics.
I think he wasn't referring to linux but to unix-like operating systems in general, so your whole solaris/bsd stuff is just crap.
i would suggest you just eat your own bs and die, your posts are stupid anyway.
Stavros
· 1 year ago
"katarxin psofa"
OOH! Personal insults in other languages, can I play, too?
Malaka putsiglifti! Mamat bayti, Eshou gelir! osti d'cave! Ich werde scheiisen im ihrer mundlichen offnung!
Can we grow the hell up now, asshat?
"secondly do you have have any proof of abi breakage? I'm just looking for some examples."
This wasn't really a problem in 2.4 and early 2.6, since changes were made in 2.5, but now, with 2.6, there's no development/testing branch, it's all done in the 2.6 line, which exposed ABI changes before they can be properly tested. Users are always told to stay away from development branches, but now there's little if any distinction between the stable branch and the development branch. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how problems arise here. There's a reason why certain distributiors (RedHat and Novel come to mind, as does Debian) backport new features into the older kernels they ship with their distributions, rather than shipping new kernels. (try upgrading to a current kernel more than a couple of point releases in the 2.6 line from a distro kernel, and watch what happens, just for shits and giggles, though).
The issue has been discussed over and over and beaten to death time and time again over the years. Google it, read up, I shouldn't have to do that research for you. I'll fish out an example or two for your lazy ass, though:
But feel free to google the issue, read a few discussions, it'll do you well to get your head out of the sand.
"also wtf would you know about monolithic kernels and their advantages/disadvantages anyway?"
Monolithic kernels offer performance at the expense of simplicity, robustness, flexibility and stability (as compared to a microkernel archetecture) Although there are no published comparisons between systems from the ground up around a microkernel (QNX, for example) vs. a monolithic design, there have been comparisons of Linux being ported to a second-generation microkernel (L4, which cuts latency by an order of magnitude from first gen designs, like Mach (who'se performance was said to be much more a biproduct of poor design implimentation than inherent of a microkernel), anyway, the overhead from IPC calls was negligible.
So, the point is, with a refined microkernel design (as in, not Mach, as in using L4 as a starting point), you're trading potentially negligible overhead for exponentially more flexibility, stability and security. This may not be worth shit on the desktop, but it's a fair tradeoff on big iron.
Or optionally, given that the performance hit is in fact inherent to the michrokernel disign (this isn't to say that it cannot be refined to a point where the IPC overhead is rendered negligible, as mentioned above), there's the Hybrid approach, but there's debate as to weather or not the term actually means anything. Essentially a hybrid kernel (think NT, Haiku and XNU) take the structure of a microkernel and impliment it as a monolithic kernel. So you get the performance of a monolithic kernel, without having any of the advantages of services run in userspace, I guess it just results in a cleaner design.
"one word, latency. and no, i don't like latency in my tcp/ip stack, in my audio or my graphics." Again, it's a tradeoff, and L4 has shown that a microkernel doesn't have to have latency dripping out of its ass like Mach did, and it's also shown that there's still much room for improvement. Of course, systems built on microkernels up to date (again, see QNX) weren't designed for audio or graphics.
I'd personally like to see more R&D done on Micro/Nano/Exo kernels, an optimized microkernel design would be true innovation.
"I think he wasn't referring to linux but to unix-like operating systems in general, so your whole solaris/bsd stuff is just crap."
In which case, my bit about BSDs and Solaris is precisely the point. Though if you want to get technical, Solaris isn't Unix-like, it's true Unix. the BSDs are also straight Unix (albeit, not certified) given that they're direct forks from BSD4.4 code. Linux is Unix-like (because GNU is a copy of the Unix userland, and Linux itself is a copy of Minix (read copy of a copy)). So, I'll reiterate, my argument that Solaris and the BSDs are, in this context, probably equally suited for the task as Linux is is a completely valid point.
"i would suggest you just eat your own bs and die"
I would suggest you grow up a little, and do some research.
"your posts are stupid anyway."
Hello Pot, meet Kettle.
Stavros
· 1 year ago
Also, speaking of Minix, look up the Tanenbaum-Torvalds debate, it's an interesting read.
Also to clarify, original poster expressly mentioned that 426 of the top 500 supercomputers run Linux, before going on to state that Linux is better suited for science and engineering. The implication of Linux being Linux (and not Unix) is pretty clear in context.
I advise bringing your reading comprehension up to speed. Kthnxbai.
Repentant Freetard
· 1 year ago
ABI breakage is a well known feature of Linux. Linux Kernel Devs even take pride in the fact that there is not a single stable Kernel API, much less ABI. Just try to upgrade your Kernel from 2.6.n to 2.6.n+1 and see how well your nVidia drivers suddenly work.
.net jerkface
· 1 year ago
Did you know that a kernel update broke vmware server?
Do you know what would happen if Microsoft broke vmware compatibility in a windows update? You would see a dozen zdnet blogs overnight declaring the end of windows to be near.
I wonder how many businesses went with Linux for virtualization after being told about how stable it is. Sure it is plenty stable until you need a security update, which may then f&ck your whole system. Oh and don't even think of running xwindows if your software is mission critical.
Sun please get in gear and bury this mess called Linux. At least with Solaris or a BSD you don't have programmers screwing with the kernel without any thought for the people that actually use it.
In my experience, a kernel update always breaks vmware server. I run three different vmware hosts, and each time updates are sent down, I sift through them looking to see if there's a kernel update. ...
Stavros
· 1 year ago
"Sun please get in gear and bury this mess called Linux."
As much as I'd love to see that, Sun would actually have to cripple Solaris in order to compete with Linux directly. The lusers like to think Linux is moping the floor with Solaris, but they don't realise that Sun is actually in a completely different market segment.
Solaris/SPARC caters to the ultra high end, nobody in their right mind runs Linux on a 180-way Sun SMP monster. There's no competing with say, Solaris on an array of UltraSPARC Rock IIs with the Linux/x86 stack. Sun seemsa happy to share dominance of the extreme high end with IBM and their AIX/Power stack.
I'd like to see the BSDs take on Linux though, much better design, much better development model (open source, but cathederal model / whole, integrated operating system, rather than a distribution of upstream parts). Trouble is BSD land lacks the rabid, foaming at the mouth evangelists and markewting that Linux has. "People use Linux because they hate Microsoft, people use BSD because they love UNIX), that's why we leave it up to Apple.
Ever notice how lusers love to point out that OS X is Unix, but shy away when you point out it's a BSD?
.net jerkface
· 1 year ago
Both BSD and Solaris x86 could replace Linux on the server with the right improvements. Though I prefer freeBSD over Solaris I see Sun as having the most potential to disrupt Linux on the x86 server space. Windows Server continues to take share from Linux but sadly there will be demand for a free Unix for years to come.
But at the end of the day I really don't care since I think Unix itself is overrated. I also really like asp/.net so I could care less if Windows were to dominate every computing sphere.
Anon E Moose
· 1 year ago
And how do any of those nuggets pertain to the use of Linux as a desktop OS by Joe User who just wants to USE a PC and not make sweet love to its innards?
Desktop Linux is an inconsistent product at best, and that's about the best thing that anyone can say about it.
It's a fragmented agglomeration of competing paradigms, none of which have the strength to become dominant to the point that the platform can achieve any sort generic baseline outside of using the Linux kernel (multitudes of various point releases notwithstanding), and the uninspiring GNU rubbish.
And even if Linux actually evolved into a single entity (1 desktop distro). The applications would still suck :P
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
Thanks, dickhead, but this blog is about Linux *ON THE DESKTOP* ... how many posts have been made about Linux ON THE SERVER?
Cripes you freetards are so clueless it's amazing you can feed yourselves.
Crunchinator
· 1 year ago
Big fucking deal. Guess how many people really even need to know about the kernel to include application developers? And guess what, I used Windows and I knew about the kernel. If you need to know about the kernel then you will learn about it, you will encounter it. If you go your whole life not knowing what it is then you obviously didn't need to know.
wingrunr21
· 1 year ago
All of you people who are using Linsux and the like names are just as bad as the Linux people using M$ or Winblows. In fact, you are directly like http://pthree.org/?p=641 from LH's post. Congrads on being one of the very people you are ranting about!
Now if you want something REALLY funny that FOSS thought up, how about OpenCola? To quote the Wikipedia article "the drink took on a life of its own and 150,000 cans were sold". SWEET! 150,000 cans! Coca Cola sells that many in what, .5 seconds? We could change that to say "the distribution took on a life of its own and 150,000 users installed it as their primary OS". SWEET! Microsoft sells that many copies of Windows in about the same amount of time as it takes Coke to sell that many cans.
However, we should ALL be drinking OpenCola because the recipe is free and modified by anyone! Nevermind the fact that the time and money spent on creating OpenCola is far more expensive than simply buying Coca Cola (especially considering Coca Cola syrup is cheaper than dirt). Please ignore the fact that if you tried to serve OpenCola at a party people would poor it down the drain, tell you you are a moron, and go buy a Coke.
The moral of the story is that not only can FOSS not get people to use free software but they also cannot get people to drink free softdrinks.
For the eventual person who goes to wikipedia, looks at the article, sees that the recipe makes 24 liters and then proceeds to tell me that OpenCola is in fact cheaper than Coke, 24 liters of coke is about $13. If you can make that OpenCola for less than that, more power to you.
Cool, check out all the posts. Who knew Linux was this influential. You know you've made it when someone wastes a big chunk of their time insulting you. Keep up the good work, guys!
NotMoreLinuxZealotry
· 1 year ago
News flash:
People who take a moment out of their day to laugh at Linux doesn't mean Linux is influential... it means its fail. Sheer and utter fail.
Keep up the good rationalizations, though!
.troll
· 1 year ago
Good luck with rationalising your own Linux obsession away. If Linux is such a failure, why are you on here talking about it?
NotMoreLinuxZealotry
· 1 year ago
"Good luck with rationalising your own Linux obsession away. If Linux is such a failure, why are you on here talking about it?"
Because the failure that is linux is good for the lulz.
Dopey Joe
· 1 year ago
Once again for the fucknut freetards who can't read: Linux is a *FAIL ON THE DESKTOP* ... thus the point FOR THE EXISTENCE OF THIS PARTICULAR BLOG ... on servers, it's fine.
Save me from these utter dumbshits!
spider1106
· 1 year ago
I don't know if English is a second language for you. If it is you have an excuse. You should have written *FAILURE ON THE DESKTOP*
The point that this whole site is missing is that Linux is not for everybody. The same way not everybody needs a pickup truck or a 4 door car. If you had a secretary at the front desk who only uses the computer to write letters, it would be crazy to drop a Linux kernel on her machine.
I have put Linux on other people's machines in the past, but now I refuse to. I tell them that they only will be calling me in a couple days to remove it. Is it because Linux sux? Not really. Linux sux for them, but not for me.
Like Rodney King said: "Can't we all just get along?"
.net jerkface
· 1 year ago
Linux still doesn't have the market share of Windows 2000.
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" - Known operating systems: GNU/Linux (Windows is just a gaming platform);"
Ahaha! I don't know, I see something like that on a CV, I can't take the guy seriously. Douchebag.
That's great. After all, FOSS is all about the freedom to use what you want.
...so long as they approve of it.
BTW what's on this site anyway (Yes, I only have IE on my laptop).
Nothing to see here, move along. (really)
http://sabayonlinux.org - that's the distro, not sure if they still do the asstarded IE blocking.
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/03/17....
Gives a good example of why standards can be a tough thing to get perfect. I've actually had more web pages break in firefox than in IE(any version). While I like firefox and many of the add-ons that it has it's definitely no worse than firefox.
It was truly insightful, evenhanded and a pleasure to read. Thank you.
Ugh, I wish I didn't visit his site, he is just another gpl douche:
none of my computer science work could exist without free software
Open-source software was built with proprietary software. What exactly was gcc compiled with? The will of the people?
Good to see he is working on a gpl'd chess engine, that is what the open source world really needs at this point. Microsoft your days are numbered.
Pay $1500.00 for IDE software and make $2000.00 from my resultant development yielding a profit of $500.00. Or, pay $0.00 for IDE software (lacking a lot of the time savings and usability enhancements) and make $1500.00 from my resultant development yielding a profit of $1500.00.
Of course, free software must be better.
Except your profit won't be $1500 with free software. After you factor in the lost time due to dicking around with the IDE, figuring out all kinds of arcane problems, you blew your load. There's a reason why professional devs primarily use commercial tools to do their work. It saves time, the support is better, and you can focus on getting your work done, rather than pretending that you're making a profit. Unless, of course, your time is worth zero. Mine isn't.
The time honoured and trusty "I need to get shit done" argument. Linux zealots have been running away screaming from this argument since the first time it was uttered. Always good seeing it again, always good to see it expressed so succinctly.
*clears throat*
This comment is made of WIN, and a quantity of internets has been deposited into your account. Congratulations.
WHAT....
the FUCK??
What a fucking douche. Upon reading this, I really should just ignore it and move on, but something....compels me..... to come up with some interpretation of what the fuck this guy was doing that makes some sense.
The only conclusion I can reach is this - he must be incredibly lonely. He is so starved of even the most basic human contact, that he decides to reply to a software pirates scam email, asking for a copy of ubuntu. I speculate that his mindfuck obsession with linux has something to do with the reason for his isolation.
Discuss.
"If there’s a glib, nutshell synopsis for why Linux desktop software tends to suck, it’s this: Raymond and his ilk have no respect for anyone but themselves."
...
"Great software developers don’t design for morons. They design for smart, perceptive people — people just like themselves. They have profound respect for their users."
There are many more good ones - Also, I haven't finished reading it yet.
So far, to me, this article speaks of the humility that is missing entirely from open source developers, the lack of which prevents them from listening to other people and learning from them, and which prevents them from seeing that the rest of the world left them behind a long time ago.
LINSUX.
Rrrrrright, so "useless" that you couldn't resist posting, huh dipshit?
The commenter contests a claim the poster never made. freetards do that, a lot if they can't argue the actual point, they'll either strawman like that, or start taking shots at Microsoft, resort to ad hominem (MS shill!), or just mention some tangent that's completely irrelevent (NASA, Google and supercomputers while the discussion is about the desktop).
You may not view this page using Linux as your operating system.
Sorry, but we have deliberately blocked access to anyone attempting to access our careers page using Linux. If you care enough about having a career with us, please access this page from the Windows machine we all know you own.
Here are our reasons, if you care to read them.
1. None of our clients use Linux. The fact that you can install Ubuntu 8.04 and build a kernel is a skill set that nobody cares about.
2. None of our clients care that you use Linux. When you are on the job site and they want you to develop queries for their Sequel server on IIS, they dont want to hear about how great it is that Linux with Apache running MySQL is free. You're being paid to do what they want, not to evangelize on their dime.
3. Our clients use Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, and Microsoft Powerpoint. Not OpenOffice. They don't want you using anything else either, and shouting about being able to read and write MS files until you're blue in the face wont change this.
Anybody calls SQL 'Sequel' and doesn't know what it stands for is a tosser who doesn't know what they're talking about. As sure as eggs is eggs. Constant as the Northern Star.
You're being paid to do what they want, not to evangelize on their dime.
Not paid enough unfortunately, and the drama is just too much for anyone who has a clue to deal with :-). Yep, you're stuck with the............................MCSE. Oh, and as a development company here's a hint - you're there to make money for yourselves to put food on the table, not to make money for Microsoft and fuck about with their software ;-).
You're there to make money to put food on the table, I agree. And how is that done? By DOING WHAT YOU ARE PAID TO DO. If that means using microsoft products, then thats what you do, not prattle on about how much better things would be if they used open source.
A reference to claiming I have an MCSE is just sheer and utter butthurt on your part, and your claim about my education credentials is almost as funny as the fosstards who claim using desktop linux in a corporate environment is a viable alternative to windows.
Wake up, and join the REAL business world, fucktard.
And you know what else? Nobody gives a shit about what operating system you use because the software products we do don't run on our machines and don't usually run on regular hardware either. Perhaps it is you who should get a clue that large parts of the world of IT doesn't revolve around windows or linux or x86 for that matter.
No one gives a shit about operating system you use? LOL.... Tell me what operating system does Microsoft Office, the #1 used software suite in the desktop business world, run on? oH yeah... WINDOWS. Not linux, WINDOWS.
The fact that you mention engineers immediately means you arent the mainstream corporate business user. The mainstream corporate business user is writing his memos in Microsoft word to discuss the email he just received in Outlook regarding his POWERPOINT presentation he gave last week. The mainstream corporate user is NOT someone using an open source email program to discuss why their Matlab code didnt give the results the expected from their FEA algorithm.
The sooner you and the other foss nuthuggers realize this, the sooner we can all move on and accept the REALITY of the business world together.
Game. Set. Match.
/thread
I've fed her various linuxes over time (but not my "linuts"...) but as soon she gets out of order we go back to formatting and windows.
she is actually my benchmark for linux being ready for the desktop (when this day comes i might be able to finally sag her!)
asshole
What the hell does office have to do with anything I said? I pointed out that the IT domain is extremely vast in ways you don't seem likely to comprehend properly. Windows, linux, office, intel, amd, nvidia, enter-your-beloved-product-you-use-at-home-or-work-here, ar but a small part of it albeit a noisy in-your-face one.
Think of it like this: we as humans seem very important on our nice planet, yet insects make up 90% of the animal mass on earth and 99.999% of all living things worked more on shaping the planet for millions of years than we did in our existence. Yet we are noisy and do in-your-face-things all around the world.
You sir are a reversed bigot. You feel good being a fanboy for the majority. And you are also a troll so please don't bother continuing this.
They make up a majority of the business world, as much as you want to bury your head in the sand or create strawman metaphors to ignore.
And in that realm, linux is a joke.
How can I be a troll on a blog where I agree with the author's opinions in general?
Again you have proved nothing except that once in a while you need to get off of linus's nuts and come join us in the real business world.
I reiterate: /thread.
He's not talking about the IT domain, he's talking about the corporate domain, and right now on the desktop linux barely enters into the equation of the corporate, non-IT, non-developer, computer literate world.
That doesn't mean that the IT world as a whole is that small. And honestly your attitude about the mainstream user is exactly what LH rants about.
"No, I do not care much about the problems of the mainstream corporate user."
That is no different from WorksForMe(tm). The mainstream corporate user is the reason that developers have jobs, so please get over yourself.
For example he starts with something about how he recommends companies to change their "careers" page to make fun of linux users which of course a good company would never do because they need people with various skillsets on their jobs.
Then he starts saying in the next reply that it doesn't matter what you use as long as you do what you are paid for but somehow using windows is the only thing you can get paid for. I agree with the part abount not mattering what you use and I give him a counter-example (my company is not the only one and it is not small) and he comes back with something weird about the corporate user that uses windows. I am sorry but the corporate user who uses windows is paid for something that has nothing to do with operating system or software in general. He can be paid for marketing ideas, for sales, for business development, whatever. I don't have anything against these things, they are very useful but have nothing to do with the topic or the replies.
When I said I do not care much about the problems of the corporate user I didn't mean it in the way you interpreted (worksforme). I meant that it is not the point of what I said before and this guy was trying to shift the focus so he can keep things in his alley.
I was also ticked by the way he insults people and talks like he knows everything.
Now run along and get busy! its not long before Ubuntu's next release and the local market is running a sale on kleenex and vaseline.
Dumbass...
If your site had any relevance to Linux users then it would just cause a massive surge of Linux users masqueraded as Windows running IE flooding your email servers will hate mail and spreading rumors on the web. Although comical, it wont help corporate public relations one bit.
BTW, nobody should care what Office Suit they're using. OxygenOffice and Go-OO bring OOo in much closer proximity to Microsoft Office.
you fail.
But shit son... I could easily install Office 2003 and 2007 with Wine, Crossover, and Bordeaux too. Fact is my choice is exactly the same as you dipshit.
Its no wonder you have no credibility.
We know that young ones are influential and never really see the truth but are just hooraying with their close buds for no reason.
[Free is cool, companies suck, open source rocks, propriety stinks]
Yeah... RIGHT. In fact, I'd say the opposite. Free apps are 99% time, cheap, clumsy, stupid, cluelessly crafted, companies do not always suck, they form a good development team/schedule/plan than most of the 'free app coders'. Open source itself doesn't really hurt, but opening code doesn't suddenly make any miracle either.
It'd be interesting to see what everyone's age is surrounding all this 'foss' mess. (im 26) I doubt anyone in the industry for over 10 years really get excited about this 'foss' movement.
FOSS is a disaster. Plain and simple. It's possible to eke out some success by using it in a very narrow role but, if you put all your chips on the table for FOSS, you're going to get fucked.
However the whole ecosystem is not designed for average users and it feels: how stupid is it that I have to get a new version of a distro to have new hardware supported?
How stupid is it that I have to upgrade my whole distro to get new software?
Etc. This crops up everyone. Linux really sucks - yet I still use it :(
1) Stability and Security
I didn't think anyone would use this "reasons" since the Debian OpenSSL disaster. The badly wanted "stability" causes a less secure system in my opinion (OpenSSL backporting disaster again and many outdated packages for not so common software).
2) Strictly Free Software
NO end user understands this stupid Iceweasel case. Oh sorry, Debian is just for servers because of 1) ;)
ALLAH AKBAR!
It's pretty good material.
"Posted by unregistered user at 2/8/08 9:03 p.m.
I understand the reason most would not make their software/OS open source but considering what a fiasco Vista is - releasing the source code to the public might be the only way MS will get talented programmers to fix all the slow performance issues of Vista."
This is the funniest comment I have read on the planet. The keyword is "talented".
I do not know which language you studied, but since when the symbol '~' would mean 'anti'?
It just means 'tilde', or in mathematics, in combination with an equal sign drawn directly under it, it would mean approximatively equal. And when talking about matrix, we use this symbol to speak about the "mineur correspondant" (I do not know the English word for it) which is used into calculating the determinant of a matrix.
Before bashing others ;-) you should take care of yourself!
Cheers,
Phonetically, I'd rather say "bang slash dot" (!/.) than "tilde slash dot" (~/.)....... just rolls off the tounge better.
I know you backwards french only recently discovered indoor plumbing and electricity, so I suppose you can be forgiven for not knowing C++. So here is some free information:
In C++, ~ means DESTRUCTOR!!!!!
eg:
class DeliciousFrenchPastry
{
public:
DeliciousFrenchPastry()
{
// this is executed when some DeliciousFrenchPastry is instanced
}
~DeliciousFrenchPastry()
{
// This is executed when the DeliciousFrenchPastry must be destroyed
}
};
Quid pro quo, doctor.
"And F-Spot compared with Windows Photo Gallery… well, let’s say that it is so bad, that such comparison almost seems to be unfair"
Exactly what I thought when I tried Windows Photo Gallery: "f-spot sucks. This really works".
Of course, Windows Photo Gallery is created by a dedicated team while f-spot is created by amatuer C# developers.
http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cups-horror.html
edit: ups! Dupe.
I just don't like linux or the bsds cause of usability issues and windows is an administration nightmare. mac os x is plainly insecure and apple just doesn't give a crap about security issues, their gui is nothing special, really, and i certainly don't like it. any gui is implementable regardless of the os so the gui is not really a matter.
So, what do you think i should be using?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QNX
If you want a workstation, go with Windows.
If you want a limited version of a workstation, go with OsX.
If you want to be a web server sysadmin, go with Linux.
aarg
LIS is DEAD
Is it useful outside a very limited market? No.
What's your point, anyway?
As one who has used various *nixes, Windows, AIX, HP/UX, Mac OS, MS-DOS, even the Commodore 64 ... that comment right there tells me you shouldn't be using a computer period.
Ahh the good old days!
Ulrich Drepper has already stated the obvious: "Why not use the same fucking binaries?!"
ans after all its what we all use
what a poor idealist :( ...
Sorry dude, but you are the one rationalizing here. But hey, everyone needs a hobby. Yours is an irrational hatred of a software development methodology. More power to ya.
Cheers!
If he could write that well at 5, that would place his IQ well above yours, dickwad.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/
At least now you microtards can no longer claim that freetards are the only bashers in town. Its all relative now--congratulations. Before you attempt to call me a freetard, I use Windows Vista SP1 and commercial software on a daily basis as well.
All this crap talk about Linux means nothing to my computer illiterate father and I when we find lesser-known FOSS apps to solve the perceived functionality gaps of well-known FOSS solutions and/or humbly rape our Windows software into working on our Linux environments in a nearly perfectly fashion. Wine, Mono, and my specialized seamless terminal server software do wonders at ensuring virtually all our Windows apps work seamlessly--without requiring a local Windows install (either virtually or a dedicated partition).
Sure, a terminal server does involve a Windows machine but it can serve more than one Linux client, especially when termserv.dll is hacked to permit unlimited concurrent RDP connections. This method works fantastic even on our basic 100BaseTX LAN and 802.11g WLAN networks with my 5 year-old P4 box being the terminal server for three Linux clients and my Windows desktop, which I can use simultaneously. Oh... and don't even BS about the certain bandwidth issues. I use the new RDP compression algorithm in Vista SP1 that consumes less bandwidth in addition to all the data compression, caching, and visual detail limiting options in my modified rdesktop client.
I stopped reading right there. Face it, dipshit: Your computer illiterate father wouldn't be able to even use your craptastic FOSS software without you tweaking the shit out of it. I don't think you get it. Nobody has a Linux admin on hand to fix their fucking Linux problems when they happen on a daily basis. That's the point of this blog. I don't care how well you think you can admin your box, or whether using Linux has increased the size of your tiny penis. The fact is that you're still using a Windows desktop, so just STFU.
The terminal server is seamless so you only see the application window not the entire desktop and the applications are launched remotely from Gnome or KDE launcher icons. Besides, STS is only used when the applications cannot be ran native from Wine, CrossOver, or Mono. The effect is the same either way.
So you can just go fuck yourself in the ass with your micro dick.
Fucking liar. Nobody on this blog believes that you haven't had "any issues since". Total fucking bullshit.
I had one issue with Gyachi voice chat not working but I wrote a bug report and 3 days later a fix was released. BTW, I used Bugzilla's reporting wizard and it was quite simple.
I had to register and create a Bugzilla account... BFD.
I'm sure there are other pieces of software with bugs but I haven't ran into them yet in F9; Fedora package maintainers are prompt with security and bug fix updates and simply don't jack around.
Sorry to disappoint you but I don't masturbate to my computers OS. I'm 99% as productive with Linux as I am using Windows. I use the same exact software on both platforms so how could I not be as productive? With this in mind the choice of OS suddenly becomes uninteresting. I go about and live life (crappy as it might be).
And yet, amazingly, you can't seem to be able to keep Flash running...
I had one issue with Gyachi voice chat not working
Ah, so you were lying earlier. Knew it. Fact is, if you were to keep a log of the problems you've had so far in getting to the point you're at, there are far more issues than you're admitting. I say that as someone who has used Linux for a decade and knows when someone is full of unrealistic shit, or has somehow deluded himself.
Sorry to disappoint you but I don't masturbate to my computers OS. I'm 99% as productive with Linux as I am using Windows.
If your productivity is essentially the same as Windows, then you're a dumbfuck for switching in the first place. Sorry, reality bites. ROI, anyone?
The transparency issue pales in comparison to the error messages I see on Windows Flashplugin on Firefox.
>> Ah, so you were lying earlier. Knew it. Fact is, if you were to keep a log of the problems you've had so far in getting to the point you're at, there are far more issues than you're admitting. I say that as someone who has used Linux for a decade and knows when someone is full of unrealistic shit, or has somehow deluded himself.
No... I've had exactly that one issue so far with Fedora 9.
I've ran into other software bugs with other distros and earlier Fedora releases but most were solved in an acceptable period of time. All software has bugs and commercial Windows software has no shortage of them.
I've had hardware issues with FreeBSD but that isn't even a related OS.
>>If your productivity is essentially the same as Windows, then you're a dumbfuck for switching in the first place. Sorry, reality bites. ROI, anyone?
I use both operating systems at will. I could easily switch solely to Linux but I own multiple machines and decided that I wanted Windows on one of them. I have a copy of Windows so why not use it... eh?
Rrrrrrrright. AS IF Flash on Linux isn't UTTER CRAP. Crashes, no audio, poor performance, yadda, yadda. And, somehow, this is supposed to be a WINDOWS problem, right douchebag?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY_KrB8Mepg
No... I've had exactly that one issue so far with Fedora 9.
And a zillion other issues on previous installations that you'd rather not talk about...
I use both operating systems at will.
What an utter and complete waste of time. Apparently, your time isn't worth anything.
I'm constantly nagged with error message boxes while watching Flash videos from certain sites. Luckily I haven't noticed it on Youtube yet...
LMFAO! Poor dumbfuck can't even handle Flash.
I'm constantly nagged with error message boxes while watching Flash videos from certain sites.
Yeah, gay porn sites.
The errors appear quite often of video porn sites like Tube8 and YouPorn.
I don't want gay porn, however. I correlate gay porn and sex in general with AIDS transmission.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Dude, stop. All OSes require maintenance. Everybody knows it. Denying it is only going to dig you a bigger hole.
"So you can just go fuck yourself in the ass with your micro dick."
Erm, genius, perhaps you could explain how he can fuck himself in the ass if he has a micro dick? What are you, like 10 or something? What a maroon.
I also perform periodic rootkit scanning with chkrootkit and rkhunter but have never been infected.
Simple... the diameter of his shit hole is 38 microns; whereas his cock is 32 microns in diameter. That is 3 microns of side cushion for a perfect fit.
Oh yea... and calling me "maroon" is pretty intelligent as well. I'm a white caucasian FYI.
In other words, you were lying.
A. You DO have maintenance issues.
B. If your computer illiterate father didn't have you administering his box for him, it would get just as fucked up as a box running any other OS.
Simple... the diameter of his shit hole is 38 microns; whereas his cock is 32 microns in diameter. That is 3 microns of side cushion for a perfect fit.
You're gay to even think that up. Face it: You smoke pole. Get therapy.
Oh yea... and calling me "maroon" is pretty intelligent as well. I'm a white caucasian FYI.
You must be an adolescent; otherwise, you'd recognize the obvious reference to one of Bugs Bunny's more famous quotes...
http://filmguide.wikia.com/wiki/Bugs_Bunny
:rolleyes:
It's such commentary that tells a fanboi from someone who's still living in reality. Ever run a production server? Ever tried to keep *nix (or even *bsd) up for longer than 12hrs to work on scripting and all? It doesn't stay up, it's as flaccid as the dickless wonders who proclaim *nix and *bsd are God's greatest gift. That's the entire problem with *nix and *bsd, it's not ready for primetime.
Server admins have to do more than just babysit services and reporting to their boss who is freaking ballastic because mail keeps crashing. *nix and *bsd server admins are literal gnomes, they spend their days tweaking the innards, and probably never get out of their cubicle to even take a bath.
Real world folks have to get in, do their work and get off (as there's something more in life than living on Web 2.0), not babysit hackware.
Where did you get a rdesktop version that supports the rdp6 features?
Which proves that freedom has nothing to do with source code.
Personally, I use Linux a lot, I like the OS, but you must admit, it does have serious problems blocking it from the Desktop. Some are not entirely of its own design - drivers not released by manufacturers, but others are.
It’s good if Linux users stop looking at Linux if it was the OS to end all OSes, take a look at the other OSes, see what they do well (instead of denigrating them for using different licenses or for just being what they are), and try to beat them. Not copy them. Beat them. Impossible? Hardly. And try to standardise a little. That’s another major problem. Stop re-inventing the wheel, do some compromises and join efforts. Zealotry must stop, now.
I'm trying to play videos using mplayer for my wife, but she farts in my face everytime I have to look at the man page to remember the options.
"
Mplayer has an excellent QT GUI named smplayer. It utilizes all the feetures of mplayer and is very easy to use.
There are some other GUIS (gnome-mplayer and gmplayer) but yes, the truth is, they are very bad.
Ah, don't these *nix and *bsd fanbois understand that not everyone even cares about *nix and *bsd? Sure I use both on servers, but it's such a damn chore that it's more time than not. Either mail or clamav will crash (and having to wait 10 minutes for them to restart - 10 minutes downtime on servers is potential lost sales knuckleheads!); or Apache2 decides to eat up all the available memory, because every damn seat takes 2MB -- woe anyone on a VPS or a 1GB test server (let alone frontend). Windows XP? If it crashes in 2 months (and I'm on the computer 12hrs a day as I'm doing 3D/video/graphic/web design work), it's a miracle. Mail will always be up (and virus free -- been online since 1985, and only got *1* virus that was killed by the AV in transit, and I've been using Windows since 3.11 workgroups!); and IE doesn't try to change the color of my UI, just so FF can have it's splashy color.
Been through the openware, freeware, betaware and simply tired of the run around. Time=money, and I can't waste it tracking down 1001 bugs, then trying to explain a bug to rabid fanbois more interested in saving the Titanic (or rearranging the deck chairs) than trying to fix or improve the software. Have work to do, and it's not working for dogs that need a rabies vaccination.
It's a two way street. *nix and *bsd want respect, but respect comes via userability, not trading insults or trying to pass trash (e.g., Linux doesn't get viruses <-- the real n00b) as the truth. Whatever OS that works without the bugs and arcane work flows (or trying to proclaim users need to be Einstein or Doofus) is the one I'll use, period. Don't care if 100000000000000001 *nix or *bsd lovers get upset. Life is too damn precious to fight over "my dick is larger than your dick". :rolleyes:
well, in the future, use Microsoft Office, the only software that microsoft will still sell. linux haters are a joke, and some day, humm, u will use linux! ha! huahuhauhauhauhuahuhau
despite differences, best regards for all!
ps: im my company, its 100% open source, and we're going very well. Ask for our
ps2: but im still waiting for the new windows, and try, maybe it get better ;]
Now, my view is so different. Even Ballmer at his most ridiculous DOESN'T COME CLOSE to the very real jackassery and total, utter EPIC FAILNESS of linux and its community of frothing at the mouth zombie fucking lemmings.
Ballmer at least is a guy you can respect on some level - his position is clear. He wants MS to keep making several metric tonnes of cash per second, and he's not queasy about yelling and screaming to fucking do it. MS wants to stay relevant to its customers, wants to remain competitive, and they make products as best they can to do so. MS likes having customers, so when they fuck up, they have a strong incentive to do their level best to fix it. Interesting how despite the best efforts of thousands of linux douches around the world to discredit Vista, Vista quietly gets its bugs fixed, continues to sell gigacopies, and linux remains broken and ignored, despite being free. Here's an old dusty clue that bears repeating: If your software is free and people still don't want it, the problem isn't Microsoft. Its you.
Wait until Windows 7 for history to repeat itself.
Damn. That hurts. True, but hurts.
Gold! 5 internets!
Which is precisely why he's now the leading figure of the world's richest software company, and you're not. Got it. *He* is the idiot. Of course.
Freetard jackasses simply cannot fathom reality.
I mean seriously, why freeze your own market, dramatically reducing Vista uptake with talk of bringing Windows 7 to market sooner, then, spend $300M pushing Vista. Either push Vista and improve it, ot give up on it and rush Windows 7. With enterprise adoption languishing, Windows 7 must be phenomenal, literally.
Why doesn't he just get back to the mandate of make the best software, people will want it, instead of after the fact, trying to prove that it is, in fact, really good, the consumer is wrong. It makes my head hurt.
Balmer needs to go, sooner, before more damage is done to MS.
Rrrright. The Harvard graduate. The billionaire. The head of the world's most successful software company. A moron. Quoth the anonymous Freetard. Thanks for the input, dipshit.
He is passionate, has no ability to be embarrassed,...
His job is to keep his company motivated and growing. His methods may be unconventional, but there are few companies that rake in the kind of money that Microsoft makes every quarter.
... but his constant attempts to buy Yahoo, ...
Google's search/advertising business has reached the point where acquisition is the only credible means for Microsoft to gain market share. Google has First Mover Advantage. These aren't mysterious concepts. Try taking a few business school classes or get an MBA, and maybe you'll understand.
to think he can beat Google
Not competing with Google isn't an option. Microsoft and Google's growth strattegies are diametrically opposed. Google is trying to sell people on thin client/cloud-based computing. Microsoft is selling a combination of cloud and rich client software. Google is trying to replace Microsoft Office with Open Office in enterprises. So, get real, Microsoft can't ignore the competitive threat, and not trying isn't going to happen, dumbass.
Zune (do I need to say more, fine machine, few want it though),...
What do you have against competition? Do you really want every market to be inhabited by a single monopolist and have to pay top dollar for everything?
OOXML (wish I could see the line item cost on that lame idea)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but OOXML is MS Office's preferred XML document save format, not ODF. Whether you like it or not, OOXML is going to have far greater market penetration than ODF ever will.
Balmer's problem, he thinks he can win, on every front, and won't give up on any, dragging the decent divisions down with the wet dream that once again, MS will be everything to everyone.
That's ridiculous. Microsoft is the world's biggest software company. It needs to invest in emerging and mature markets to promote its own platforms. Without that investment, competitors will encroach continually on its mature products (eg. Office, Windows), and threaten its revenue stream. That's the nature of competition. Deciding not to compete is bullshit. Knowing when to quit is another story. You don't seem able to distinguish the two.
I mean seriously, why freeze your own market, dramatically reducing Vista uptake with talk of bringing Windows 7 to market sooner, then, spend $300M pushing Vista. Either push Vista and improve it, ot give up on it and rush Windows 7. With enterprise adoption languishing, Windows 7 must be phenomenal, literally.
Because companies have given Microsoft feedback that they want to know Microsoft's platform delivery schedule. Windows 7 won't be ready for another year and a half. Companies won't adopt for another year after that. You seem to think that WIn7 is imminent. It ain't.
Why doesn't he just get back to the mandate of make the best software, people will want it, instead of after the fact, trying to prove that it is, in fact, really good, the consumer is wrong. It makes my head hurt.
Who, exactly, is trying to prove that the consumer is wrong? And what are they doing?
Balmer needs to go, sooner, before more damage is done to MS.
No offense, but you're just an anonymous douchebag. Your opinion doesn't mean dick.
He is the head of the company, looking like an idiot doesn't help the corporate image.
So they should buy Yahoo (wasting their reserves) but can't compete against Google. You aren't even consistent between paragraphs. Which is it?
Zune (and ALL others, I have no iAnything) good idea, but it was executed VERY badly. A new DRM, stab your partners...
OOXML - No, it isn't the new format, MS is now going to waste thousands of person years converting to OOXML, while adding ODF and even after MS themselves admit ODF won. That's sound business I tell ya.
MS themselves stated they are too thin. They can't win on all fronts, but Blamer will NEVER CONCEDE ANY market.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10005379-16.html
"our competitors that are focused on narrower product lines may be more effective in devoting technical, marketing, and financial resources to compete with us."
You can spin it all you want, Windows 7 talk, and the moving up of it's schedule is due to the original Vista problems. They MUST freeze the market (which they are great at doing), to hedge any thought of moving to something else. Why then spend $300M in a useless attempt to re-energize Vista (which, regardless of how good Vista is no, will never work, that ship has sailed).
Vista Capable/Ready lawsuit. Blame the drivers campaign, the new push that Vista is now ready...
Balmer is not COO material, he will continue to hurt the company, whether you like it or not, they need a real COO.
douchebag out
It's funny. That's what freetards always claim about Linux.
So you call the leader of Microsoft an idiot, and then admit that you use Linux, and are surprised that "nobody got your point" and you were "even called a freetard."
Please hit yourself with a clue bat before you post.
So ... you "got into linsux in the first place" but you don't use it? WTF? Clue bat ready and waiting ...
I have been using various releases of Windows, personally and professionally (as a system/network administrator, Systems Engineer), since WFW 3.11. Since using every version of Windows from Windows NT Workstation 4 up to Vista Ultimate, I have not had the misfortune of “. . . losing Windows . . . to a slew of viruses, malware, trojans and any other form of badware.”
Now, don’t get me wrong. In my present position, I use Windows and RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.6 and 5.1/2 at work). I have multiple VM instances of various Linux distributions along with Sun’s offering, Solaris. On a couple of my older laptops, I have PC Linux OS 2007, OpenSUSE 11, and RHEL 5.1 loaded. I make mention of this to illustrate that I am very supportive of the Open Source Software movement
What is going on that causes a computer to get infected with a “slew” of malware? That is not a limitation of the operating system, but I function of the user’s browsing and usage habits.
However, I do have to admit that due to my position, I am able to run the corporate version of Symantec Antivirus (which is less obtrusive and obtuse as the retail version) on all of my personal systems. SAV Corp--especially the latest releases such as 10.1.7000.7 for XP and 10.2.0.276 for Vista--does a very good job of protecting Windows based system from the “slew” of Trojans and mal/bad-ware.
They run a non-patched copy of XP (sometimes RTM, no SP), they're logged in as an admin, they're using internet explorer, they blindly click on anything, they run any .exe from any shady website or P2P (95% likely a virus or trojan), and will surely open freeporn.jpg.exe from their email.
Some people need to be protected from themselves. Somehow, they think what they're doing is Windows' fault, funny.
What really gets my attention is line 2 that reads, “Internet Explorer is a poor browser. It cannot even render standard HTML and CSS (which are well-specified and render properly in other browsers). Examples include transparent PNG images, which show up gray, and dotted borders, which show as dashed borders.”
What is even more interesting is that IE7 (version 7.0.6000.16681) from Vista Ultimate renders all of the PNG images properly. I guess the poster, like many other IE haters, is using an old version of IE. Maybe 5.5 or an unpatched 6.0?
Wow, a poor browser that cannot render standard HTML. Hmm, popular web sites such as these listed below sure seem to render well.
• http://www.cbs.com/
• http://www.nbc.com/
• http://www.bankofamerica.com/
• http://www.whitehouse.gov/
• http://www.goodwill.org/page/guest/about
• http://www.youtube.com/
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
Oh, that’s right. They don’t adhere to standard HTML specifications.
Of course, Firefox 3.0.1 renders his HTML standards compliant, static, non-interactive, and bland site correctly.
Hey, let’s look at his complex code. Of course it must be sophisticated since IE can’t possibly render the tag intricacies well. Let’s look, shall we?
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<title>Catalin Francu's Den</title>
<style type="text/css">
a.myBorder img {
border: 1px solid black;
}
body {
font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;
background-color: white;
margin: 0px;
}
.brick {
border: 1px dotted black;
padding: 5px;
position: relative;
left: 12.5%;
width: 75%;
margin-top: 5px;
margin-bottom: 5px;
}
.color1 {
background-color: #f8fff8;
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background-color: #f8f8ff;
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font-size: 75%;
color: #555555;
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margin-left: 20px;
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vertical-align: middle;
}
.sectionTitle {
font-size: 125%;
font-weight: bold;
}
.vspaced {
padding-top: 5px;
padding-bottom: 8px;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div class="brick color2">
<div style="float: right;">
<img style="vertical-align: bottom;"
src="Misc/CoverPhotos/viena2.jpg"
alt="mugshot"
title="Click for more gorgeous pictures like this one"/>
</div>
<div style="text-align: center">
<div class="sectionTitle">
Cătălin Frâncu
<span style="font-size: 80%">cata@francu.com</span>
</div>
resume |
photos |
blog
<span class="deemph">(Romanian)</span>
</div>
<div style="clear: both;"></div>
</div>
<div class="brick color1">
<img class="sectionIcon" src="img/dexonline.png" alt="dexonline.png"/>
<span class="sectionTitle">DEX online</span>
<div class="indent vspaced">
DEX online is the online Romanian dictionary. I launched
the project in August 2001 and, with the help of an amazing team
of volunteers, it grew to 360,000 definitions. It runs
exclusively on free software and its database is freely
available under the GNU Free Documentation License. DEX
online is my baby, until I'm mature enough to have real
babies. The entire page and links are in Romanian only.
</div>
Links:
<div class="indent">
DEX online
blog, for
random non-technical rants about the project's evolution
stats
trafic.ro ranking
Dixit, a neat tool for
browsing the definitions offline
</div>
</div>
<div class="brick color2">
<img class="sectionIcon" src="img/nilatac.png" alt="nilatac.png"/>
<span class="sectionTitle">Nilatac</span>
<div class="indent vspaced">
Nilatac is a suicide chess engine I wrote back when "free time"
had a meaning. It is active 24/7 on FICS, where it is one of the
better suicide programs, and its opening book is available
online. Suicide chess, despite its morbid name, is a fascinating
game; some say it rivals classical chess in complexity. It is
played on a standard chess board, but the aim is to lose all
your pieces (and captures are mandatory). I haven't worked on
Nilatac for a while, save for minor opening research. But I
dream of the day when I will. Nilatac is free software.
</div>
Links:
<div class="indent">
Nilatac
<span class="deemph">(outdated, incomplete)</span>
Nilatac's opening book
Nilatac's
source code (CVS repository)
AndrewTheAlmighty's suicide chess review, featuring
introductory lectures and strategy
FICS, the place to
go for online chess
</div>
</div>
<div class="brick color1">
<img class="sectionIcon" src="img/clef.png" alt="clef.png"/>
<span class="sectionTitle">Music</span>
<div class="indent vspaced">
In my spare time I typeset some Romanian choral scores. I used
Lilypond, the music
notation software. All the resulting scores are free for you to
copy, modify and/or redistribute. They include Christmas carols,
folklore, and a complete score for the Orthodox liturgy in
Romanian.
</div>
Links:
<div class="indent">
Romanian choral scores
</div>
</div>
<div class="brick color2">
<img class="sectionIcon" src="img/train.png" alt="train.png"/>
<span class="sectionTitle">Toy Projects</span>
<div class="indent vspaced">
These are random things that I've worked on.
</div>
Links:
<div class="indent">
Yams, a dice game I wrote to learn
GTK. Also available
via svn.
</div>
</div>
<div class="brick color1">
<img class="sectionIcon" src="img/sticks.png" alt="sticks.png"/>
<span class="sectionTitle">Family</span>
<div class="indent vspaced">
Naturally, I have more family members than these (in fact I have
a large and vivid family), but here are the ones with web pages:
</div>
Links:
<div class="indent">
My dad Sorin <span
class="deemph">(Romanian)</span>
My wife Daria
<span class="deemph">(page under construction)</span>
My sister-in-law Andreea
My brother Cristi
My brother-in-law Bogdan's enterprise. <a
href="http://www.quickjobs.ro">Quick, go get a job!
</div>
</div>
<div class="brick color2">
<img class="sectionIcon" src="img/romania.png" alt="romania.png"/>
<span class="sectionTitle">Romania</span>
<div class="indent vspaced">
That is where I'm from. I'm glad to have seen the world, but
I'm even gladder whenever I go back there. Romania is a
22,000,000-people country in Eastern Europe, bordering the
Black Sea, slightly smaller than the UK. Pope John Paul II
once called it Garden of Virgin Mary. We love soccer,
alcohol and good jokes and we know the meaning of
dolce far niente better than most. But we've been
known to work occasionally and accomplished many good
things. Romania is currently going through an impressive
economic boom. There are many superb corners in this
country; the following links are to places that I happen to
love.
</div>
Links:
<div class="indent">
Virtual Romania will
one day be the ultimate guide to Romania
<span class="deemph">(work in progress)</span>
Petru Vodă is a monastery
founded in 1991. More photos
here
Sighişoara
is one of the best-preserved medieval towns in Europe
Cluj-Napoca is
a major city in Transylvania
Ascension of the
Lord is a Romanian Orthodox church in San Leandro, CA
A few jokes about Romanians
</div>
</div>
<div class="brick color1">
<img class="sectionIcon" src="img/nerd.png" alt="nerd.png"/>
<span class="sectionTitle">Academics</span>
<div class="indent vspaced">
I'm a proud MIT nerd. Before that, I was a mediocre
student at the Politehnica University of
Bucharest, where I failed five classes in three years. I
decided that I would rather transfer to MIT and leave the
country than retake those exams. Before that, I went to the
High-School of Computer Science in Bucharest, during some of its
best years. I also taught there for one year, which I greatly
enjoyed.
</div>
Links:
<div class="indent">
MIT;
classes I took there
Politehnica University of Bucharest;
classes I took there (and
didn't fail horribly)
High-School of Computer Science
I started this mailing list on
programming problems in 1998.
I ranked seventh at the
2001 ACM finals with the MIT team
I won a silver medal at
IOI '96
The funny side of MIT: IHTFP
Hack Gallery (well, MIT is always very funny)
</div>
</div>
<div class="brick color2">
<img class="sectionIcon" src="img/gnu-head.png" alt="gnu-head.png"/>
<span class="sectionTitle">Free software</span>
<div class="indent vspaced">
To put it plainly, none of my computer science work could exist
without free software. My main accomplishments so far, DEX
online and Nilatac, rely completely on free software. Even
this web page is created and served using dozens of free
programs. I have profited a lot from free software and I tried
to give something back. I believe that software should be free
and that our understanding of copyright and software patents
should change. So, like, bow down to free software, or
something.
</div>
Links:
<div class="indent">
The Free Software Foundation,
home of the GNU Project
The philosophy of free
software, including simple explanations
Richard Stallman, founder of
FSF and the GNU Project
No
Word Attachments in emails: a small step you can take to
help free software
<span class="deemph indent">I reserve the right to ignore
email messages containing attachments in Microsoft formats.</span>
Copyright and globalization, a fascinating talk by
Stallman
Courtney Love does the math, an article about RIAA's practices
Famous cases:
Dmitry Sklyarov
(verdict),
Niels Ferguson,
Edward Felten,
DeCSS
<a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c105:1:./temp/~c105579wHA:e11962:"
>DMCA, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Section 1201 (a) is
scary.
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>
Try to remember that someday, when you're laying on your deathbed, choking on your own phlegm, douchebag. It ain't gonna be pretty.
http://linuxhaters.blogspot.com/2008/06/how-to-...
In regards to my posts that you linked, honesty in my family has always been the best policy. While the Linux community, and it's kernel, are not perfect, we are a good group. We get things done, and seem to do so efficiently. Further, the ones referring to Microsoft as M$, etc. are the vocal group. There are many a Linux user who are not vocal, who don't refer to Microsoft in such a manner. Being a Linux trainer for my bread and butter, I see the non-vocal group every week.
Further, I don't know why my post about my family going "Windows-free" is laughable. Using Ubuntu Linux and Mac OS X meets the needs of my family. Why is that funny? Certainly, Windows meets the needs of others, and that's just fine.
Hey dad I put my barbie fashion designer cd into the computer and I got a message stating that Ubuntu can't find any music files to play. What is the problem?
Oh that cd is for Windows, we use Linux. I'm raising you in a Windows-free environment.
Well then Linux sucks. I want Windows.
Don't you want to be a part of the Linux revolution?
No, I would rather play barbie fashion designer.
She'll write such awesome software, linux nerds worldwide will weep in the streets or throw themselves into active volcanos in shame, all while cursing the name of Stallman and the other varied douches.
This is a real possibility you should consider.
Why, do all her friends use Apple? It isn't Windows if it's functional and polished (has either of these applied to any Windows program simultaneously?) It probably isn't seeing others use the Linux EEE or the new Acer Aspire One, they sell out way too quickly, I can't find any.
It's not that hard to understand.
Methinks someone went on a porn binge.
So. A warez binge then...
Your wife needs even more education on how to properly surf the web. But she shouldn't get it from you.
Let's face it, your wife is being patient with OpenOffice because it's such a shoddy product compared to MS Office. Other than the additional and improved drawing tools in Impress, I can't find anything to like about. The day will come when her patience will wear thin, particularly when she really needs to get something done and all the OpenOffice quirks become time wasters.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy using Linux in a limited fashion... It's good for web browsing and simple programming tasks, but my stress level went through the roof if when I tried recently to use Linux as my primary work machine. Sure it booted faster than Windows and at times seemed more responsive, but I fought constant battles getting MS Office documents to import correctly in OpenOffice, and had networking, wi-fi, and printer issues on a daily basis. Mostly though, it was the tiny bits of FOSS flakiness that over time made me grow weary every time I sat down at my PC. Those little intangibles of UI design that, when executed poorly, cause fatigue and stress.
Until Linux solves those problems, and you stop treating your wife like she is a silly little thing who, like you, needs to accept Linux wholeheartedly, we will continue laughing.
It sounds like you haven't sat down at a Linux machine, however. Linux solves many, many problems. Enough, that Google, Amazon, IBM, HP and even Microsoft find problem solving with Linux. Must be a pretty shoddy product with those heavy-weights behind it.
"... to cope with my anachronistic chauvinism (and denial, when somebody calls me on it..." (there, fixed it for you)
It sounds like you haven't sat down at a Linux machine, however.
Don't kid yourself. ALL of us have used Linux. I've used it for YEARS, in grad school, at work, at home, etc.
Linux solves many, many problems.
It also CREATES many, many problems. Which is the focus of this blog.
Enough, that Google, Amazon, IBM, HP and even Microsoft find problem solving with Linux. Must be a pretty shoddy product with those heavy-weights behind it.
First, Google, Amazon, and many others are using custom versions of Linux that their professional staffs maintain. They're not depending on "the community" to support them. Second, nearly all of these organizations are using Linux in a limited server role. They're not using it on the desktop. Third, Microsoft primarily uses Windows XP/Vista/Server 2003 internally. You're kidding yourself if you think that they use Linux in any substantial way.
Also, I think you were streching to look at pivot tables as a problem with OOo. OOo's problems are much more immediate and apparent than pivot tables.
Like... OOo has significant general all around usability problems...
Out of worlds top 500 supercomputers 426 are powered by linux..........may be they are not good in pc's
if you go with microsoft and windows you never learn what is a kernel.........and you will always be a application developer.................
I believe for science and engineering linux is the best!
What Linux does teach you about kernels, though is an in depth lesson about the atrocity that is a monolithic kernel, it also teaches you how to not maintain a stable ABI and break applications with every other point release.
You're like those lusers who're all "you probably don't even know what a Window Manager does", while this is also basic comp sci, it bloody masnages windows, precisely as the term suggests.
Anyway, I don't dispute that Linux is more suited for engineering and science (not my field), but I don'tr see why the BSDs or Solaris wouldn't be just as well suited for the task. As always, it's about using the best tool for the job; why would I care, as a graphic designer/musician, that Linux is better suited for science/engineering? Likewise why would you care that Windows/Mac OS is better suited for multimedia, as a scientist/engineer?
Why would I care about 426 of the top supercomputers? It's a moot point, it's not as if anyone here has access to one. It's like the freedom to modify code argument, it just isn't interesting to a non-developer.
secondly do you have have any proof of abi breakage? I'm just looking for some examples.
also wtf would you know about monolithic kernels and their advantages/disadvantages anyway?
one word, latency. and no, i don't like latency in my tcp/ip stack, in my audio or my graphics.
I think he wasn't referring to linux but to unix-like operating systems in general, so your whole solaris/bsd stuff is just crap.
i would suggest you just eat your own bs and die, your posts are stupid anyway.
OOH! Personal insults in other languages, can I play, too?
Malaka putsiglifti!
Mamat bayti, Eshou gelir!
osti d'cave!
Ich werde scheiisen im ihrer mundlichen offnung!
Can we grow the hell up now, asshat?
"secondly do you have have any proof of abi breakage? I'm just looking for some examples."
This wasn't really a problem in 2.4 and early 2.6, since changes were made in 2.5, but now, with 2.6, there's no development/testing branch, it's all done in the 2.6 line, which exposed ABI changes before they can be properly tested. Users are always told to stay away from development branches, but now there's little if any distinction between the stable branch and the development branch. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how problems arise here. There's a reason why certain distributiors (RedHat and Novel come to mind, as does Debian) backport new features into the older kernels they ship with their distributions, rather than shipping new kernels. (try upgrading to a current kernel more than a couple of point releases in the 2.6 line from a distro kernel, and watch what happens, just for shits and giggles, though).
The issue has been discussed over and over and beaten to death time and time again over the years. Google it, read up, I shouldn't have to do that research for you. I'll fish out an example or two for your lazy ass, though:
http://lwn.net/Articles/234133/
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6985
But feel free to google the issue, read a few discussions, it'll do you well to get your head out of the sand.
"also wtf would you know about monolithic kernels and their advantages/disadvantages anyway?"
Monolithic kernels offer performance at the expense of simplicity, robustness, flexibility and stability (as compared to a microkernel archetecture) Although there are no published comparisons between systems from the ground up around a microkernel (QNX, for example) vs. a monolithic design, there have been comparisons of Linux being ported to a second-generation microkernel (L4, which cuts latency by an order of magnitude from first gen designs, like Mach (who'se performance was said to be much more a biproduct of poor design implimentation than inherent of a microkernel), anyway, the overhead from IPC calls was negligible.
So, the point is, with a refined microkernel design (as in, not Mach, as in using L4 as a starting point), you're trading potentially negligible overhead for exponentially more flexibility, stability and security. This may not be worth shit on the desktop, but it's a fair tradeoff on big iron.
Or optionally, given that the performance hit is in fact inherent to the michrokernel disign (this isn't to say that it cannot be refined to a point where the IPC overhead is rendered negligible, as mentioned above), there's the Hybrid approach, but there's debate as to weather or not the term actually means anything. Essentially a hybrid kernel (think NT, Haiku and XNU) take the structure of a microkernel and impliment it as a monolithic kernel. So you get the performance of a monolithic kernel, without having any of the advantages of services run in userspace, I guess it just results in a cleaner design.
"one word, latency. and no, i don't like latency in my tcp/ip stack, in my audio or my graphics."
Again, it's a tradeoff, and L4 has shown that a microkernel doesn't have to have latency dripping out of its ass like Mach did, and it's also shown that there's still much room for improvement. Of course, systems built on microkernels up to date (again, see QNX) weren't designed for audio or graphics.
I'd personally like to see more R&D done on Micro/Nano/Exo kernels, an optimized microkernel design would be true innovation.
"I think he wasn't referring to linux but to unix-like operating systems in general, so your whole solaris/bsd stuff is just crap."
In which case, my bit about BSDs and Solaris is precisely the point.
Though if you want to get technical, Solaris isn't Unix-like, it's true Unix. the BSDs are also straight Unix (albeit, not certified) given that they're direct forks from BSD4.4 code.
Linux is Unix-like (because GNU is a copy of the Unix userland, and Linux itself is a copy of Minix (read copy of a copy)). So, I'll reiterate, my argument that Solaris and the BSDs are, in this context, probably equally suited for the task as Linux is is a completely valid point.
"i would suggest you just eat your own bs and die"
I would suggest you grow up a little, and do some research.
"your posts are stupid anyway."
Hello Pot, meet Kettle.
Also to clarify, original poster expressly mentioned that 426 of the top 500 supercomputers run Linux, before going on to state that Linux is better suited for science and engineering. The implication of Linux being Linux (and not Unix) is pretty clear in context.
I advise bringing your reading comprehension up to speed. Kthnxbai.
http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/enter...
Do you know what would happen if Microsoft broke vmware compatibility in a windows update? You would see a dozen zdnet blogs overnight declaring the end of windows to be near.
I wonder how many businesses went with Linux for virtualization after being told about how stable it is. Sure it is plenty stable until you need a security update, which may then f&ck your whole system. Oh and don't even think of running xwindows if your software is mission critical.
Sun please get in gear and bury this mess called Linux. At least with Solaris or a BSD you don't have programmers screwing with the kernel without any thought for the people that actually use it.
From:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=837299...
In my experience, a kernel update always breaks vmware server. I run three different vmware hosts, and each time updates are sent down, I sift through them looking to see if there's a kernel update.
...
As much as I'd love to see that, Sun would actually have to cripple Solaris in order to compete with Linux directly. The lusers like to think Linux is moping the floor with Solaris, but they don't realise that Sun is actually in a completely different market segment.
Solaris/SPARC caters to the ultra high end, nobody in their right mind runs Linux on a 180-way Sun SMP monster. There's no competing with say, Solaris on an array of UltraSPARC Rock IIs with the Linux/x86 stack. Sun seemsa happy to share dominance of the extreme high end with IBM and their AIX/Power stack.
I'd like to see the BSDs take on Linux though, much better design, much better development model (open source, but cathederal model / whole, integrated operating system, rather than a distribution of upstream parts). Trouble is BSD land lacks the rabid, foaming at the mouth evangelists and markewting that Linux has. "People use Linux because they hate Microsoft, people use BSD because they love UNIX), that's why we leave it up to Apple.
Ever notice how lusers love to point out that OS X is Unix, but shy away when you point out it's a BSD?
But at the end of the day I really don't care since I think Unix itself is overrated. I also really like asp/.net so I could care less if Windows were to dominate every computing sphere.
Desktop Linux is an inconsistent product at best, and that's about the best thing that anyone can say about it.
It's a fragmented agglomeration of competing paradigms, none of which have the strength to become dominant to the point that the platform can achieve any sort generic baseline outside of using the Linux kernel (multitudes of various point releases notwithstanding), and the uninspiring GNU rubbish.
And even if Linux actually evolved into a single entity (1 desktop distro). The applications would still suck :P
Cripes you freetards are so clueless it's amazing you can feed yourselves.
Now if you want something REALLY funny that FOSS thought up, how about OpenCola? To quote the Wikipedia article "the drink took on a life of its own and 150,000 cans were sold". SWEET! 150,000 cans! Coca Cola sells that many in what, .5 seconds? We could change that to say "the distribution took on a life of its own and 150,000 users installed it as their primary OS". SWEET! Microsoft sells that many copies of Windows in about the same amount of time as it takes Coke to sell that many cans.
However, we should ALL be drinking OpenCola because the recipe is free and modified by anyone! Nevermind the fact that the time and money spent on creating OpenCola is far more expensive than simply buying Coca Cola (especially considering Coca Cola syrup is cheaper than dirt). Please ignore the fact that if you tried to serve OpenCola at a party people would poor it down the drain, tell you you are a moron, and go buy a Coke.
The moral of the story is that not only can FOSS not get people to use free software but they also cannot get people to drink free softdrinks.
For the eventual person who goes to wikipedia, looks at the article, sees that the recipe makes 24 liters and then proceeds to tell me that OpenCola is in fact cheaper than Coke, 24 liters of coke is about $13. If you can make that OpenCola for less than that, more power to you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola
People who take a moment out of their day to laugh at Linux doesn't mean Linux is influential... it means its fail. Sheer and utter fail.
Keep up the good rationalizations, though!
Because the failure that is linux is good for the lulz.
Save me from these utter dumbshits!
The point that this whole site is missing is that Linux is not for everybody. The same way not everybody needs a pickup truck or a 4 door car. If you had a secretary at the front desk who only uses the computer to write letters, it would be crazy to drop a Linux kernel on her machine.
I have put Linux on other people's machines in the past, but now I refuse to. I tell them that they only will be calling me in a couple days to remove it. Is it because Linux sux? Not really. Linux sux for them, but not for me.
Like Rodney King said: "Can't we all just get along?"
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qpr...
Will Linux overtake Windows 2000 by 2010? Will that make it the year of the Linux desktop?
Note that Windows ME still has market share of .24%, which means it has more marketshare than most distros.
The Linux desktop has been an epic failure.