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Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

ChrisTek — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:11:42 -0000

"If every Windows user wrote a blog post everytime they did the same things, the internets would run out of disk space."

ROFLMAO!

It's about time a site just says it like it is. If for anything these quips for some laughs after the 10:1 Windows vs. *nix dogpile ratio on hardware forums.

...Sends the admin a six pack of ice cold beer (and a coupon for 3 year rabies vaccine, as the rabid fanbois love to byte...oops...bite!)...

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

BM — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:00:50 -0000

"“My graphics never work in Linux!” - Take that money you *supposedly* spend on those cool windows apps you use, and buy a real video card. I have IBM, Dell, HP, eMachines and custom built machines (over 5000) running graphical interfaces under linux. Without me tweaking each Xorg.conf."

Haha I like how he implies that if your video card *doesn't* work well in Linux it's not a "real" video card. I guess I should throw out my X800. :-( Well, I probably should anyway since it's a bit on the old side, but I rarely game, anyway.

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

Joseph Alois Ratzinger — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:09:06 -0000

but it'd be only limited to one gender of course.

So you'd prefer both genders?

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

.troll — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:59:07 -0000

Agree. In other words, it's irrelevant to the vast number of people on Earth. If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it...
Exactly. :-D

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

ray — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:53:08 -0000

re: the "things i did with ubuntu" guy: my god, what a horrible, vile blog post. I may not use Linux anymore, but that guy makes me ashamed to have ever gone near a *computer*.

dear linux cultists: stop telling people they're broken.

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

.troll — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:17:47 -0000

No, I wasn't trying to sully QT, but counter LIS' assertion that using a commercial framework would make the OpenMoko not suck.

I believe the phone would suck, no matter what framework it was built using.

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

.troll — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:07:24 -0000

OMG!! Yes! Exactly!! You're some sort of genius!
Fucking right I am.

Your article would be awesome for sure!!
Correct.

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

nareshov — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:26:31 -0000

http://www.silverex.org/news/

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

stallmanix — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:37:33 -0000

Yes it is posible to load acpi table in windows using ms asl compiler and there is others ways to do the same.
Your problem is that you spend too much time masturbating with the idea that linux some day will take over windows and you do not see the present.
Man you are just full of shit.

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

Mr. O — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:48:56 -0000

That's a world and attitude that society has been busy evolving away from since mass production became the new thing. It's about as realistic as suggesting people will give up their cars and go back to horses in order to fight global warming.

Plus, in this age of conspiracy and paranoia (which won't be going away), I sure as hell wouldn't trust some local geek to muck with my PC. Just who certifies this person as being trustworthy?
I suppose we'll have Guilds for that...

The problem with the utopia concept is it's not one that open source can fix, because it's not a computer problem. It's an entire social mindset of a society where everything is pre-packaged, shrink-wrapped, mass-marketed crap, and the majority of consumers revel in it.

Nothing changes unless something drives the change.

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

Guest — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:42:24 -0000

Programming some things is not the same as being a TV repair man or a plumber. It often requires very specific knowledge and, even if the programmer can identify the offending piece of code, making a fix can be dicey. Certainly more dicey than having the original vendor fix the problem.

Bingo!

Oh noes!! Do you realise what you've just done?? In 3 sentences, you just beat the living shit out of the entire concept of open source!!

Wait, is it still breathing? *listens* Nope, that was RMS choking on his own shit.

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

anonytard — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:34:43 -0000

such as the right to vote, speak, and share ideas
Add ... and argue on this FOSStard website to the list

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

Mr. O — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:31:30 -0000

Re the leet ubuntu user from the tiresome blog this post links to. I have yet to meet another NT sysadmin who "constantly" reboots his "boxes". And, as for tracking down the source of problems, we server admins have these things called "logs" which we can use to track down answers, either from the MS KB, or through discussion forums.
I ran into the Gcompris thing a year or two ago. I was very disappointed to see such a militant asshat attitude from people purveying software meant for the little'uns. I am not about to recommend switching our school division over to Linux just so we can unlock the special features that are only free from a certain point of view.
And neither would any other sane sysadmin, so the attitude is all for naught from my POV.

Tux Paint is a bigger hit with the kiddies anyway. Unfortunately they have yet to implement a "Save As" feature, which makes setting it up in an multiuser environment a bit of a kludge. I wrote to their developer a long while back, and he replied something to the effect of it being a difficult feature to implement. I'm sure they'll get to it eventually.

As for me. I spent a weekend at the beach with Sabayon on a Thinkpad T41. After getting fed-up with the usual crappy infighting between KDE and Gnome menus (half the new software I installed not showing up in KDE and double entries for most of it in Gnome) I thought back to the LinuxHater and wondered just why in the hell I was putting up with this sub par behaviour? I took 10 minutes to dump an XP image to the disk and I was back to having a clean, fast, responsive desktop.

It's like the (middle-aged) tech from our wireless provider said to me when I told him I was trying out Linux on my work laptop. He said that he hated computers enough that he felt it absurd to be mucking around with an OS just for the sake of mucking around with it when he already had something that worked (for him) perfectly.
His words, as well as those on this blog, make me wonder what my own motivations are for engaging in what always ends up being a substandard experience at best. I guess I just never learn that the grass isn't greener on the other side, no matter how much I want it to be.

Comments in this blog also lead me to the Unix Haters Handbook. That was an interesting weekends read.

PS: Our content filter blocks Disqus. This makes for much less entertainment during the workday. Maybe I'll have to start constantly rebooting my boxes for fun instead...

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

Tom — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:21:23 -0000

Using linux has nothing to do with skill. It has only to do with how much brokenness and time wasting you are willing to tolerate in the name of the joining some delusional nerds who mistake sharing source code for freedom.

What's ironic about FOSStard's concept of "freedom" is that the largest growth rates in Linux usage are occurring in developing nations -- such as China -- where political oppression is greatest and individual liberties are weakest. FOSS hasn't made their people "free". It has only enabled dictators to erect tighter controls over what their people can see, read, and publish. The money that they would have spent on computing infrastructure can now be diverted to more weapons, more soldiers, more police, more prisons, more financing for hacking efforts, more regulation of individuals, etc. In other words, the real FREEDOM -- you know, the kind that adults really value, such as the right to vote, speak, and share ideas -- is something that FOSS can't deliver. It's a farce. They talk about "freedom" when they really mean "shitty source code".

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

Tom — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:57:41 -0000

There are several problems with your premise.

1. Commercial Windows and Mac solutions "just work" pretty much out of the box. There's no need to find a local programmer.

2. When a customer pays for a particular piece of software/hardware, they want the vendor that they paid to stand behind the product and, generally speaking, that model works well for support. If they can't get it to work, they return it. That provides a powerful incentive to fix the problem. They don't need to pay a local programmer.

3. Let's say, for sake of argument, that the customer wants to take their PC to a local programmer. Who the fuck is their "local programmer"? How do they identify someone who is qualified to fix their problem? Similarly, since knowledge of how to fix a give problem is not distributed evenly or locally, what do you do when you can't find a qualified "local programmer"? Programming some things is not the same as being a TV repair man or a plumber. It often requires very specific knowledge and, even if the programmer can identify the offending piece of code, making a fix can be dicey. Certainly more dicey than having the original vendor fix the problem. It all goes back to efficiency.

4. Promoting local fixes doesn't mean that those fixes will get pushed back into to the community.

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

Guest — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:36:31 -0000

Premise: The open source world of tomorrow would be a utopia.

Just as you would go to your local blacksmith to repair some item or implement made of iron, you will go to your local, neighbourhood computer programmer to ask them to fashion a tool or repair a problem with their software. If it is closed source, your local programmer can't fix it! Who is grandma going to turn to when she wants a new feature added to her window manager so she can have rotatable and scalable desktop icons??

Sounds good right? However, what are the various problems with this idea? Discuss.

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

anonytard — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:13:34 -0000

If you think that they violate GPL then you can follow a legal route. But thinking that every freetard website, including this one, should release their code is a delusion.

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

Tom — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:11:52 -0000

That qualification doesn't make you any less wrong. Google hasn't give away even a "little" of what they're running their business on.

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

Captain Obvious — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:20:17 -0000

OMG!! Yes! Exactly!! You're some sort of genius!

You should write one of these articles yourself. Your article would be awesome for sure!!

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

guz — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:07:03 -0000

Very handy if you want an OS for your dishwasher.

from linux.com review:

Like every distro, Puppy has its own quirks and twists. On my systems Puppy 3.00's desktop user interface behaves abnormally after prolonged use.

Where have I heard this before.

Most common are the gray areas left by windows and menus after being closed.

that's new

Another minor irritant is the lack of file associations.

handy

One major pitfall in Puppy is that you only get one shot at saving files at shutdown.

nice

You don't have to try them all dude, it's all the same shit. So your shit takes up less disk, what a progress.

Somehow these guys simply don't get it. We don't want 500 minesweepers, different desktops, smaller footprints, freedom do dump it in Africa, freedom to look inside other people's code or hear Root Mean Square's BS. We just want it ... to work.

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

.troll — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:55:00 -0000

Both those would be funnier if they included something about the Linux Cottaging and Dogging Association, with the caption: 'There's nothing a Linux user likes more than sucking off a complete stranger.'

Also a picture of one penguin mascot bending another one over would be good. Particularly if it was an animation, with one penguin's groin moving and the other one's eyes popping.

Perhaps some satire, like a Linux Support Staff flowchart, including: 'OMG RTFM!' as the first step and ending with, 'Works for me!'

That Uncyclopedia article reads like a shit blog post bashing Linux, it's too literal, re-hashes tired FUD and has too many unfunny criticisms shoe-horned in. Franly, Linux Hater has come up with much better stuff than that.

By the way, I switched from DEB to RPM and it made my dick six inches longer! Based on this, there is definitely merit in making that move, even if you do end up in dependency hell.

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

what me worry? — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:44:35 -0000

Personally, I think that's awesome. Just because the open source fundies don't mind being exploited and profited from, doesn't mean companies think the same way. Company X spends bucketloads of money developing some app or some piece of hardware, they test it, they make it usable, why the fuck shouldn't they want to ensure that the smelly, retarded, self righteous open source wankers can't debase it by getting it to work with a broken OS like linux? Maybe Company X takes some PRIDE in its work, and what it delivers to its USERS, which the open source morons insist they DON'T NEED.

Being "shut out" of the open source community and out of linux is *exactly* what they want. They want to sell their stuff in unmodified form, the way they designed, it to their real customers, not morons who'll take their creation and tack on a broken interface, thereby making the company look bad.

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

verily — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:30:02 -0000

When the site comes back up (presumably from the DDos attack), there is another dose available here:

http://encyclopediadramatic...

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

P or not P — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:23:19 -0000

This tolerance evaporates to zero when you have something you actually want to accomplish with your computer, including software development.

Re: Lusers make me laugh ver. 3

Tom — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:18:14 -0000

Also look at the desktop: KDE4 is developed on the commercial developed QT software stack, but that certainly does not make it magically better than Gnome. I'm sure both are shit in your opinion, but that point is moot.

KDE4's problems have nothing to do with the QT framework layer, so I'm not sure why you're trying to sully QT. Perhaps you think that associating a commercial solution with THE SUCK negates the assertion that commercial solutions are better. You're gonna need to try harder than that. KDE4 has been poorly received because the developers simply failed to understand users' needs and, instead, went off in their own direction; basically, telling users to fuck off, they didn't need users.