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Re: Challenged

app — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:40:04 -0000

I have an 11 year old, heavily used WinME machine that is quite stable and runs like a dream...a slow dream, but a good one. The only nightmarish part involved is really hardware related, with a slow CPU speed and not much RAM, which is not an OS related problem.

This PC is running 24/7, and I am actively using it at least 16-18 hours a day. I only reboot it about every 4-5 days. I have been using it as my main PC and dev box, simultaniously running a web server on it, and even for software testing for writing reviews. This is brutal stuff that most people do not use their computer for. I really "abuse" this baby.

But I also take good care of it. It hasn't needed a reinstall in over 4 years. In fact it runs better today than it did 4 years ago.

And we all know that XP is so much better than WinME. So if you are reinstalling XP yearly, something is seriously wrong, and I wouldn't say it was the OS's fault.

If I can make a single install of WinME run well with heavy "abusive" use for over 4 years, then XP should be able to run at least 8 years without a reinstall, providing your hardware doesn't quit on you, first.

Re: Challenged

app — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:49:53 -0000

I don't know why my comment was posted multiple times. I appologize. It wasn't intended.

Maybe it was because I surf the internet with Javascript turned off, by default. I think disqus doesn't like it.

Re: Challenged

app — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:23:00 -0000

LH, don't confuse RDP with Remote Assistance. They are actually 2 entirely different things with completely different purposes.

Remote Assistance is for helping noobs fix their crap over the internet.

RDP is for logging into a server and getting serious amounts of work done.

I think the problem that guy was having with RDP and only one user being able to be logged in on a machine running XP Pro is because he was using the wrong OS on the host machine.

XP Pro is a desktop OS, not a server OS. It is meant to be used by a single user at a time. A server version such as Windows 2003 Server or Windows 2008 Server would allow multiple users logged in at the same time, each using their own desktop account on the system.

I have done this. As a matter of fact, I downloaded the RDP client and installed it on an old 233mhz, 64MB ram, WinME machine and connected over a 33.6k dialup connection, to another running 2008 Server. There was always at least one other person logged into the server, besides me, at the same time. We all had our own desktop accounts and whatever any of us did didn't interfere with anyone else. You wouldn't even notice anyone else was logged in, unless they messaged you or something.

I was able to run software through the RDP client that I could never have installed, nevermind run, on the WinME machine (like Firefox 3). I was also able to take advantage of the generous bandwidth available to the host machine and download a lot of large PDF files to the server, that I needed in order to get my work done.

I was able to complete, in a single day, an amount of work that would have taken me a month or longer if I had only the old painfully slow WinME machine and its equally slow dialup connection to deal with.

Also, I have tried to accomplish the same with VNC. I gave up pretty quickly after the VNC viewer caused low resource warnings on the WinME client machine, not to mention how much slower it was to do anything. For example, there was a serious delay between when I moved my mouse on the client machine and saw the cursor move on the remote server. Too much damn waiting involved to get anything done.

RDP on Windows rocks, when you know how to use it properly.

With a really good server that has the hardware that can handle the load, one can set up a nice system where a bunch of old cheap low end 9x desktop machines connect to the server with RDP to run all the software they need.

You can run the latest & greatest software on old trash that way. It's much cheaper and easier than buying a mid-range to high-end system for every desktop in your business, and then installing seperate copies of all the software needed, and then having to maintain all those systems.

You just need a basic Win9x install on machines you can find in the trash and an RDP client on them...nothing else. Very fast & easy to fix if anything goes wrong on any client machine, and quite cheap to replace if one of them dies.

Re: Challenged

app — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:54:56 -0000

LH, don't confuse RDP with Remote Assistance. They are actually 2 entirely different things with completely different purposes.

Remote Assistance is for helping noobs fix their crap over the internet.

RDP is for logging into a server and getting serious amounts of work done.

I think the problem that guy was having with RDP and only one user being able to be logged in on a machine running XP Pro is because he was using the wrong OS on the host machine.

RDP on Windows rocks, when you know how to use it properly.

Re: Challenged

app — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:26:57 -0000

LH, don't confuse RDP with Remote Assistance. They are actually 2 entirely different things with completely different purposes.

Remote Assistance is for helping noobs fix their crap over the internet.

RDP is for logging into a server and getting serious amounts of work done.

I think the problem that guy was having with RDP and only one user being able to be logged in on a machine running XP Pro is because he was using the wrong OS on the host machine.

RDP on Windows rocks, when you know how to use it properly.

Re: Challenged

Victor — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:14:05 -0000

Couldn't agree more. Anyone who actually is or was a sysadmin knows that Windows is better.

Re: Challenged

jonessm — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:29:11 -0000

Where the FUCK did wishful thinking enter into this discussion? Did
you read a God-damned thing anyone else wrote here?
You can't HOPE that somebody who breaks in only does X, instead of X,
Y, and Z. Explain what the hell you were thinking and how this
applies to security. I'll be kind, even the loosest interpretation
of the word "security" will do. Or, PISS OFF.

Re: Challenged

Ghostshaw — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:57:21 -0000

A small comment, there are a few tricks to make windows allow 2 (and even more (dunno if its infinit)) users to login at the same time. It might take you a little time and some googling, but no more then setting up SSH in a proper and secure way tbh.

Re: Challenged

Guest — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:12:42 -0000

What is this?? A funny and interesting reply from a linux user with a sense of humour?

Open source software is an excellent idea. Programmers sharing code and ideas is an excellent idea. I just hate linux for being shithouse, and stallman for giving open source a bad name by trying to turn open source into some sort of retarded commie crusade, which it isn't. Open source is just that - open source, nothing more.

Re: Challenged

nobody:nogroup — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:00:15 -0000

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Incoming moaning on em0. Should we let it pass? You deserve all
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YAY. Got some new sort off troll out off his hole. Warning thecodewitch
tries an u-turn in discussion. Should we allow his woolgathering? We
don't want to overwhelm you with details. Just make your choice and
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"According to Stallmanites and other similar pond scum" ...what?!?

in the "Stallmanites" words (http://www.fsf.org/licensin...

"Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software. More precisely, it refers to four kinds of freedom, for the users of the software:

* The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
* The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
* The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor (freedom 2).
* The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access to the source code is a precondition for this."

@thecodewitch. So when it rains and your head get's wet you blame your shoes, right?
Shut the f.. up.

Everybody likes solving puzzles. So, here is an easy one for you.

Who said that? (Yes, i know you don't know even one of them. So cheating is alowed for you. Go google for them.)

"...treat the user like a thinking, intelligent being, and not a moron."
"If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it." (substitute "it" with "your software")
"Let's face it, the average computer user has the brain of a Spider Monkey."

Dear Mr. Wanker,

you should fire the stupid freetard who wrote the e-mail. Our experts LH and TCW have done a serious research.

Linux is unusable, all software running on top of it sucks, and when there is a problem, it is impossible to find somebody around the world to fix it. We finally will use another OS for our mission critical tasks.

The most important results, facts and proofs:
1. Linux crashes so often, that you must build clusters to keep parts of the system up (http://www.top500.org/list/.... Even for the price of $100 million there is no soundcard support in the kernel.

2. Never use Linux based webservers, the truth about them is, there is no way to protect them from LAMP infection. Many Power-Users aknowledged that.

3. When it comes to fileserving, you must beware of the "Google Dance" putting heavy load on your server. The problem is called out for SAMBA and is not fixable at the moment. In the next version of the Vista firewall there will be a SMB2 (Samba Melody Blocker 2) feature. But till then you shouldn't use Linux based systems for fileserving.

4. You always have to worry about your system, it is always under attack by an evil group called FSF (Free Software Foundation). FSF is an organisation like Greenpeace, but it's more like an evil GNU. We all know GNUs have supergnu powers and kill penguins "just for fun". These evil hackers are fighting for the freedom of software and break into computers to free all the installed applications. It is not proven by know, but we have a strong suspicion that they are responsible for the missing part in the apple logo. They use a tool called GCC (General Computer Cracker) to HURD your system.

We will not use Linux, Free, Open and NetBaSeD software for our business. It's all crap.

Yours,
staying offline Megadouche

TCW/TH Enterprises

@thecodewitch And now pull the plug, please! If you need a HowTo (documentation), let me know. Since you are not my neighbor, helping you should be ok.

Re: Challenged

Crunchinator — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:40:56 -0000

"but in all those examples you have a choice [...]"

Way to miss the point. Additionally, in all these examples you already made a choice and once that choice was made discovered faults that were out of your control. Furthermore, a choice that best fits your needs might not exist. For example, I do not like any of the DVD ripping utilities that I've tried on Linux. Yes, they exist, yes I can use them but I simply do not like them. This is a case of picking the one I hate the least.

"you can correct the programs problems and redistribute it [...]"

Yes, I could do all that just like you, not being satisfied with your airline experience, could launch your own airline and design and build your own jets. It's in the realm of possibility but far from an optimal solution and a very unrealistic expectation. Your expectation for me to invest quite a bit of time and money (all decisions are economic) into implementing my own solution is asinine.

Re: Challenged

nobody:nogroup — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:34:10 -0000

Yes, i agree. Since Windows 2000 the most bluescreens i have seen were based on a hardware defect. The others were based on codecs using the DirectX API the wrong way. Would be nice for none gamers if they didn't place it in the base install.

"I wonder why they weren't running Red Flag Linux, or whatever the Chinese are supposed to have."
The hardware is from Lenovo. And Lenvo recommends Windows for the most of their Systems. Linux based systems are not yet ready for the average users desktop. Don't get me wrong. Linux(!) is, but the distributions are not.

Lenovo has made the right decision and chosen the most tested hardware/software combination for the job. It's not about love or hate. It's all about getting the job done. No bleeding edge Vista, only well tested (by you, LH, many others and me) XP Systems. Does not really hurt me. I'm sure there are many Linux based servers in the background doing a good job. ;-)

Re: Challenged

ZiggyFish — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:09:58 -0000

"So if your car breaks down it isn't a problem because my car still works? If you buy a motherboard that used faulty capacitors it's not a problem if they blow out because I--using the same mother board--have working capacitors in mine? There was nothing wrong with the first release PS2s because mine kept working despite the numerous other people having faulty lasers in theirs? Those idiots were surely doing something wrong since mine works."

but in all those examples you have a choice, which is the same as Linux, I can pick from a lot of programs, that best fit my experience. Windows, not so much.

"In short, working for you doesn't equate to not being faulty by design and therefore is irrelevant to his problems.

Post Script
Giving back to the community doesn't mean they give back to you; sometimes they tell you to fuck off in one way or another."

but they have already given you something, the program (for free), and a solution to your problem. If you don't like there response, so what, you can correct the programs problems and redistribute it (as long as you attribute the work and keep the derivative open source) the way you want.

Re: Challenged

Guest — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:26:21 -0000

@nobody:nogroup

Lets piss away the day replying to a brainless troll, in this case "nobody:nogroup"

Brainless blurting:
If you develop an application with more then one button, you will always find an idiot for pressing the wrong one.

This is a very common attitude among immature and self righteous freetards. According to Stallmanites and other similar pond scum, the user deserves no respect, and the programmer doesn't have to strain themselves to understand the user's point of view, and the user's universe of concepts. Like a retarded new-age fingerpainting class, the programmer is "free" to implement whatever garbage he feels like, and then, in the typical fashion of an arrogant, petulant little hippie, expects people to make use of the pile of dogshit he just produced.

This, on its own, isn't a problem if the programmer just wants to amuse himself or experiment with something. The problem arises when freetards start claiming that some broken tech demo is ready for people to use. Where linux really fucks itself over, shooting itself in the foot with a minigun, it that this ends up indirectly hurting the reputations of those very rare, actually competent open source programmers who make useful things that treat the user like a thinking, intelligent being, and not a moron.

Another idiotic quote:
Windows is always good for a laugh: (Reference to the BSoD at the olympic opening ceremony)

Dear Mr. Megadouche,

Linux never crashes, all its software works perfectly, and when there is a problem, there is a helpful staff of several million monkey devtard "programmers" around the world making "all bugs shallow", all of whom are courteous and polite, and will consider your problem thoughtfully, and provide a response, if not a solution within 2 business days.

If you believe that, I know a couple of Nigerian princes who would like to talk to you.

Wanker.

Re: Challenged

John — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:04:31 -0000

But it must be *really* small because she didn't notice anything.

If I want feedback from my personal cum dumpster, I'll ask, myself. Meanwhile, enjoy sloppy seconds.

Re: Challenged

julian67 — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:30:23 -0000

Gosh!!

But it must be *really* small because she didn't notice anything.

Or are you perhaps confusing the concept of "A Woman" with "Mrs Palm & Her Five Lovely Daughters"?

I think we should be told.

Re: Challenged

Anon E Moose — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:57:03 -0000

I'll wager it was a hardware fault. I see a 5-10% failure rate in new systems that we purchase, regardless of vendor, within the first month or two of service. Usually either glitched RAM or bad motherboards. Get a few drives that die within the first 6 months too. That goes for desktops and servers both.

The reliability of PC hardware hasn't exactly been improving these last few years.

I wonder why they weren't running Red Flag Linux, or whatever the Chinese are supposed to have..

Re: Challenged

John — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:51:54 -0000

@julian67: You're an idiot with a tiny dick.

Your girlfriend doesn't think so, fat boy. I did her every way possible, while you were fucking around with your crappy FOSS software, trying to get it all to work. See, that's the primary benefit of using Windows and OS X: Extra TIME. Lots of it. Which leaves me free to fuck your girlfriend. ;-p

Re: Challenged

nobody:nogroup — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:23:58 -0000

Windows is always good for a laugh:
http://gizmodo.com/5035456/...

Re: Challenged

Joseph Alois Ratzinger — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:13:46 -0000

All these times I thought despite the all the deficiencies of Linux, they still give more freedom compared to Windows. Thanks to you sir, I now totally believe that it's Windows who gives us more freedom and better sleep at night. Inspiring!

Well done! You missed the whole point! Congratulations!

Apparently it doesn't matter how SHIT Linux is, if it's more "free" then that equals BETTER.

FREE-ER = BETTER

And this is exactly why:

RETARD + FREE = FREETARD

Re: Challenged

Joseph Alois Ratzinger — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:08:48 -0000

We want more hate !!!!!

Re: Challenged

nobody:nogroup — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:42:16 -0000

Schizophrenic or comedian?

http://linuxhaters.blogspot...
"Projects like the kernel and firefox are exceptions in a sea full of shitty projects. They are how open source projects should be run. "

Re: Challenged

nobody:nogroup — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:27:19 -0000

@thecodewitch "but such a stupid feature shouldn't even be an option"
In my humble opinion we shouldn't build bridges. LH could jump off them.

If you develop an application with more then one button, you will always find an idiot for pressing the wrong one.

@LH You call it "Linux Hater's" but you mean "Ubuntu Hater's". Some Windows and Ubuntu usability here, nothing else? Where are the facts about linux? What is wrong with linux? The development model, the monolithic kernel, the memory managment, the scheduler, the developers, the community, the supported plattforms,...? Do your homework and give us facts the next time.

Back to the article.
You are talking about "windows automated install". So please tell me how you handle the product keys. I'm really stuck with this. We use here a single product key to install many machines. After the first login we identify the machine by the MAC address and take the right key out off a MAC to product key database. We do this with a cscript an register the machine at Microsoft automatically after changing the product key. And yes, we also own volume licenses. But Microsoft is not willing to convert our OEM licenses to volume licenses.

"Hey BTW, FYI, JIC, for your future reference, you should try googling things before you make claims like this."
Hey, LH perhaps you should try out things before writing your next article.

Oh yes, the Windows firewall rocks! At a Vista presentation (ready for a new day) the speaker said: "...the firewall now even filters outgoing traffic". Wow, i call this innovative. By the way, a firewall is just a single instrument in a security concept. I don't need one on my laptop.

"Thank God! My rogue script only deleted my home directory!" (...)

Thank God! My sons rogue script only deleted his home directory! Got the point now?

"turns out you don't need a separate archiving format and compression format if you support one that does both (zip)."
Do you know why this fails with my personal picture folder. I really would like to have a backup on DVD. Would be hard to loose nearly 3 GB pictures.

LH continues blubbering..."Let's do some math. Let's say I set up XP once 3 years ago, and never had to do any installs, and it took me like 2 hrs to get the base OS and the apps that I use."

Here is some user experience from me as debian user...
Debian woody (Version 3) upgrade to Debian etch (Version 4)
1.) change apt sources took about 3 seconds
perl -pi -e "s,woody,etch,g" /etc/apt/sources.list
2.) download in the background (15 minutes, but the machine is normal usable while downloading)
apt-get update &
3.) Upgrade the system (about 3 minutes watching the screen and 1 minute answering questions)
apt-get dist-upgrade
4.) boot new system
reboot
Bling, bling. Shiny new etch in about 4.5 minutes unproductive time and nothing broken!
Do the math again. How about an article with your experience "Upgrade Windows 2000 to Windows XP" the next time?

And please stop trolling about cscript/wscript whatever scripting language. I know many using it, but not one who likes it. No doubt, the idea behind it is good. The implementation is...

Hey LH, wouldn't a "Perl Hater's" blog be nice too?

Re: Challenged

h1d — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:55:34 -0000

5 days no new post. zomfg. has linux finally rose up to look on par with other os?
on another topic, this disqus thing is quite dumb when it never crops any of the posts after making the page bloody long.

Re: Challenged

Martheen — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:09:13 -0000